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<blockquote data-quote="Ambrus" data-source="post: 1858601" data-attributes="member: 17691"><p>I'm curently playing a 6th level Gold Dragon (from Dragon Magazine 320). Last session we fought a demon with DR 10/Cold Iron. My uselessness in such a combat was made spectacularly clear. The best I could manage was to use my Combat Expertise feat to boost my AC and serve as a meat shield for the other PCs who had some cold iron weapons (I also managed to trip the demon on occassion).</p><p></p><p>Since it seems that these demons may be our party's main opposition, I've begun trying to find some way to improve my usefulness in combat. I was investigating the possibility that a dragon could use a set of gauntlets or spiked gauntlets made of different materials as an option. Gauntlets count as unarmed attacks, though I can't figure out if gautlets would allow the higher base damage of a dragon's natural claw attacks or not (though I suspect they would, for I'd expect a monk to benefit from his increased damage if he wore them). Since they're considered unarmed, they require neither proficiency to use them and wouldn't seem to interfere with the dragon's natural attack routine. Am I wrong in my assumptions?</p><p></p><p>Spiked gauntlets on the other hand are light weapons and, by the strict letter of the rules, would count as wielding two weapons in combat and require the use of the dragon's BAB and the various two-weapon and off hand penalties, with the dragon's other natural attacks counting as extra secondary attacks. It's also unclear whether they'd do the listed damage for spiked gauntlets or whether they'd allow for the dragon's base claw damage instead. Also, they'd require simple weapon proficiency. Normally dragons don't have such a proficiency, except for dragons who are "humanoid in form (or capable of assuming humanoid form), in which case proficient with all simple weapons"; (MM page 308). The word "capable" seems to indicate that such dragons have the proficiency all the time, regardless of whether they're currently in a humanoid form or in their dragon form.</p><p></p><p>What do you guys think? Could a monster have it's claw attacks count as cold iron/silver/adamantite by wearing specially crafted gauntlets? Anyone have a better idea? The alternative is to use my alternate shape ability to turn into a humanoid and fight with a cold iron heavy mace or something (a concept I find spectacularly unapealing).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambrus, post: 1858601, member: 17691"] I'm curently playing a 6th level Gold Dragon (from Dragon Magazine 320). Last session we fought a demon with DR 10/Cold Iron. My uselessness in such a combat was made spectacularly clear. The best I could manage was to use my Combat Expertise feat to boost my AC and serve as a meat shield for the other PCs who had some cold iron weapons (I also managed to trip the demon on occassion). Since it seems that these demons may be our party's main opposition, I've begun trying to find some way to improve my usefulness in combat. I was investigating the possibility that a dragon could use a set of gauntlets or spiked gauntlets made of different materials as an option. Gauntlets count as unarmed attacks, though I can't figure out if gautlets would allow the higher base damage of a dragon's natural claw attacks or not (though I suspect they would, for I'd expect a monk to benefit from his increased damage if he wore them). Since they're considered unarmed, they require neither proficiency to use them and wouldn't seem to interfere with the dragon's natural attack routine. Am I wrong in my assumptions? Spiked gauntlets on the other hand are light weapons and, by the strict letter of the rules, would count as wielding two weapons in combat and require the use of the dragon's BAB and the various two-weapon and off hand penalties, with the dragon's other natural attacks counting as extra secondary attacks. It's also unclear whether they'd do the listed damage for spiked gauntlets or whether they'd allow for the dragon's base claw damage instead. Also, they'd require simple weapon proficiency. Normally dragons don't have such a proficiency, except for dragons who are "humanoid in form (or capable of assuming humanoid form), in which case proficient with all simple weapons"; (MM page 308). The word "capable" seems to indicate that such dragons have the proficiency all the time, regardless of whether they're currently in a humanoid form or in their dragon form. What do you guys think? Could a monster have it's claw attacks count as cold iron/silver/adamantite by wearing specially crafted gauntlets? Anyone have a better idea? The alternative is to use my alternate shape ability to turn into a humanoid and fight with a cold iron heavy mace or something (a concept I find spectacularly unapealing). [/QUOTE]
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