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[spin-off] 3E is NOT "dumbed down."
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<blockquote data-quote="Silverthrone" data-source="post: 370529" data-attributes="member: 7445"><p>The 3e D&D rules and game in general is definitely dumbed down in my opinion. It owes much of it's mechanics to the badly done Diablo 2e series and the nearly as badly done Player's Options type books.</p><p></p><p>It stripped what was actually good about Player's Option, the ability to generate a totally customized race and almost classless rules system and tacked on the old class and level 2e style system to the general Player's Option mechanics.</p><p></p><p>It is almost totally linear in respect to advancement, and goes out of it’s way to hold the DM’s hand (And at times it seems, twist his arm.) through even the simplest of decision. Some of the subjects it gives advice on as if they were amazingly complex are the sort that, if you couldn’t understand the concept without all that explanation then you likely should not be playing D&D. It assumes the most straightforward and unimaginative actions on the part of DMs and PCs, and assumes, it seems, in many places that the people playing will do the most inane and stupid of things in a given situation. I suppose if it was indeed aimed at today’s youth, it at least got something right.</p><p></p><p>The system is a true laugh as a multi-genre rules system. Several systems come to mind that stomp the proverbial crap out of it at that role. The so called D20 system is nothing more than a simplified version of the same rules set D&D has used for years, and it is no more multi-genre supportive now than it was then. It resurrected the dinosaur of class and level rules sets and it is a shame it did, as now sets that are truly multi-genre supportive like Fuzion or GURPS that could have enjoyed a boost as 2e left the scene have now taken back seat in the mainstream once more to an outdated rules concept. I suppose they are better off for it though, at least they are not being dragged into the mire of catering to generation duh.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The D&D game can be fun, it can even make for some entertaining role playing, but I truly feel sorry for the people whose only exposure to role playing is through it, for they do not know how a good multi-genre rules system can be. I hope those people eventually out grow their D&D phase and check out games like Fuzion, GURPS, Blood of Heroes, World of Darkness, or BESM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverthrone, post: 370529, member: 7445"] The 3e D&D rules and game in general is definitely dumbed down in my opinion. It owes much of it's mechanics to the badly done Diablo 2e series and the nearly as badly done Player's Options type books. It stripped what was actually good about Player's Option, the ability to generate a totally customized race and almost classless rules system and tacked on the old class and level 2e style system to the general Player's Option mechanics. It is almost totally linear in respect to advancement, and goes out of it’s way to hold the DM’s hand (And at times it seems, twist his arm.) through even the simplest of decision. Some of the subjects it gives advice on as if they were amazingly complex are the sort that, if you couldn’t understand the concept without all that explanation then you likely should not be playing D&D. It assumes the most straightforward and unimaginative actions on the part of DMs and PCs, and assumes, it seems, in many places that the people playing will do the most inane and stupid of things in a given situation. I suppose if it was indeed aimed at today’s youth, it at least got something right. The system is a true laugh as a multi-genre rules system. Several systems come to mind that stomp the proverbial crap out of it at that role. The so called D20 system is nothing more than a simplified version of the same rules set D&D has used for years, and it is no more multi-genre supportive now than it was then. It resurrected the dinosaur of class and level rules sets and it is a shame it did, as now sets that are truly multi-genre supportive like Fuzion or GURPS that could have enjoyed a boost as 2e left the scene have now taken back seat in the mainstream once more to an outdated rules concept. I suppose they are better off for it though, at least they are not being dragged into the mire of catering to generation duh. The D&D game can be fun, it can even make for some entertaining role playing, but I truly feel sorry for the people whose only exposure to role playing is through it, for they do not know how a good multi-genre rules system can be. I hope those people eventually out grow their D&D phase and check out games like Fuzion, GURPS, Blood of Heroes, World of Darkness, or BESM. [/QUOTE]
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