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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sorrowdusk" data-source="post: 5579690" data-attributes="member: 96342">You KNOW...it does. THAT ASIDE thanks, looks like that did a last minute name change. Looking at it, its kinda cool, pretty gnarly to send after some camping lowbies- albeit I DO wonder: If its thing is to hit somebody with sleep or sneak up on them sleeping, and then strangle them-how do you get them off? Its an (Ex) ability that can only be used on helpless opponents, and sleeping opponents are helpless, but does the strangling NOT awaken someone? Slapping or Damaging normally does (but not normal noise.) The lash attack it has to hit with is normally 1d4-3 which is a fancy way of saying it USUALLY does no damage unless it maxes. So I presume that if it deals no damage it doesnt awaken  you, AND while suffocating opponents it deals no damage to awaken the subject either? "If a lurking strangler hits a helpless foe with its lash attack, it wraps itself around the victim’s throat and begins to choke it. In the first round, the victim falls unconscious (0 hit points). In the following round, she drops to –1 hit points and is dying. In the third round, she suffocates and dies." Technically just "falling unconscious" (and in reality, you only STAGGERED and concious @ 0, but it may be that you are just unconcious AND at 0 independent of one another) is not taking damage, even if your HP just suddenly "becomes" Zero. There were no rolls. Albeit dropping to -1 may be damage, but I presume by that point as a result thereof you couldnt be waking up from anything anyway. I presume it wouldnt take anything to remove it? I mean it has a -10 grapple modifier.</blockquote>

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