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Spiritual Weapon: how much can it see?
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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1475443" data-attributes="member: 16936"><p>I don't know why that should be a problem at all. Three words for you:</p><p></p><p><em>Glitterdust</em>. <em>Faerie Fire</em>. </p><p>(And then I'll add three extra words to make the last 2 words of that hurt even more: <strong>1st level spell.</strong>)</p><p></p><p>And those actually give EVERYONE involved in the battle a chance to beat up the invisible guy without even getting a 50% miss chance for total concealment! Clearly, the rules don't have a philosophical problem with letting people get around invisibility with spells of equal or lower level. There are even rules for throwing flour on 'em, when it comes right down to it, and it doesn't get more mundane than that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>...Now, I wouldn't let a cleric target a Spiritual Weapon on an invisible opponent he couldn't actually see at the time of casting. But, y'know, if he can see the guy and cast Spiritual Weapon, and the guy doesn't go where the Weapon can't follow, I say let the weapon keep on following him. I'm feeling more convinced that I'd base whether the weapon had to roll a miss chance entirely on whether the caster can still see the target, too: if he can, no miss chance. If he can't, it's 50/50 and good luck to him.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>it almost makes a horn of fog look more useful</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1475443, member: 16936"] I don't know why that should be a problem at all. Three words for you: [i]Glitterdust[/i]. [i]Faerie Fire[/i]. (And then I'll add three extra words to make the last 2 words of that hurt even more: [b]1st level spell.[/b]) And those actually give EVERYONE involved in the battle a chance to beat up the invisible guy without even getting a 50% miss chance for total concealment! Clearly, the rules don't have a philosophical problem with letting people get around invisibility with spells of equal or lower level. There are even rules for throwing flour on 'em, when it comes right down to it, and it doesn't get more mundane than that. ;) ...Now, I wouldn't let a cleric target a Spiritual Weapon on an invisible opponent he couldn't actually see at the time of casting. But, y'know, if he can see the guy and cast Spiritual Weapon, and the guy doesn't go where the Weapon can't follow, I say let the weapon keep on following him. I'm feeling more convinced that I'd base whether the weapon had to roll a miss chance entirely on whether the caster can still see the target, too: if he can, no miss chance. If he can't, it's 50/50 and good luck to him. -- it almost makes a horn of fog look more useful [/QUOTE]
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