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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8838225" data-attributes="member: 6877472">And that's a perfectly fine description, the problem I run into is that there are several possible descriptions, forcing (heh) everyone to come up with one that works for them.  Back in 4e, there were condition cards with a little bit of art showing you what ongoing damage of a particular type would look like, and they allowed me to give players reasonable descriptions of what was happening.  For example: [ATTACH=full]268001[/ATTACH]But the force damage one really didn't look like anything distinct.  Radiant damage was like a laser, but force?[ATTACH=full]268002[/ATTACH]I don't really know what that is.  Another kind of laser?  A kinetic beam from the punch dimension? Certainly the art shows that it's smashing the armor it strikes, but what about it is different from, say, me hitting you with a hammer?This was even worse in 3e, where force had this property that let you beat up ghosts and other incorporeal foes for, uh, reasons.  And the only description we got was: "Force is pure magical energy focused into a damaging form. Most effects that deal force damage are spells, including magic missile and spiritual weapon."  Yeah, thanks for that.  Anyways, this concludes my rant about force as a damage type.</blockquote>