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Spiritual Weapon vs. The Ethereal
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 904836" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Ahem, being the guy playing the Cleric in question, I figure I should pipe in on this one (particularly since it is a domain spell for me that will probably be used again in the future, if my Cleric survives of course...).</p><p></p><p>You forgot to quote the part of the spell that says that, </p><p></p><p>"...you can use a standard action to switch the weapon to a new target. If you do not, the weapon continues to attack the previous round's target."</p><p></p><p>So, I contend that once I direct the weapon to attack the phase spider (that I can see at the time, since it is not phased when I direct the spiritual weapon), it "locks on" its target. I no longer have to direct the weapon after that point, as long as I do not wish to change targets, and as long as the WEAPON remains in my line of sight, and in range. There is no requirement that the target of the weapon remain in sight or range.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, the spell would probably require concentration on my behalf to continually maintain. For example, if I am in combat and hit, the Spiritual Weapon is not impacted, nor does the spell require that I make a concentration check to maintain "directing" the weapon. I believe there are other spells that do specifically require such maintained concentration that can be interrupted, and the absence of this requirement indicates continual concentrated direction is not required once the weapon is directed to its target.</p><p></p><p>As for etherialness being a barrier to the spiritual weapon hitting...the text specifically says the spritual weapon attacks as a spell, not as a weapon, and can strike "for example" incorporeal creatures. Spells cast on the material plane can effect something on the etherial plane (and in fact every single summoning spell has an effect on things on other planes). I don't see any "boundary" preventing this spell from hitting it. In fact, really what is the difference between incorporeal and etherial? What other conditions other than incorporeal do you think the authors could have meant by "such as", if etherial isn't one of them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 904836, member: 2525"] Ahem, being the guy playing the Cleric in question, I figure I should pipe in on this one (particularly since it is a domain spell for me that will probably be used again in the future, if my Cleric survives of course...). You forgot to quote the part of the spell that says that, "...you can use a standard action to switch the weapon to a new target. If you do not, the weapon continues to attack the previous round's target." So, I contend that once I direct the weapon to attack the phase spider (that I can see at the time, since it is not phased when I direct the spiritual weapon), it "locks on" its target. I no longer have to direct the weapon after that point, as long as I do not wish to change targets, and as long as the WEAPON remains in my line of sight, and in range. There is no requirement that the target of the weapon remain in sight or range. Otherwise, the spell would probably require concentration on my behalf to continually maintain. For example, if I am in combat and hit, the Spiritual Weapon is not impacted, nor does the spell require that I make a concentration check to maintain "directing" the weapon. I believe there are other spells that do specifically require such maintained concentration that can be interrupted, and the absence of this requirement indicates continual concentrated direction is not required once the weapon is directed to its target. As for etherialness being a barrier to the spiritual weapon hitting...the text specifically says the spritual weapon attacks as a spell, not as a weapon, and can strike "for example" incorporeal creatures. Spells cast on the material plane can effect something on the etherial plane (and in fact every single summoning spell has an effect on things on other planes). I don't see any "boundary" preventing this spell from hitting it. In fact, really what is the difference between incorporeal and etherial? What other conditions other than incorporeal do you think the authors could have meant by "such as", if etherial isn't one of them? [/QUOTE]
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