Split the tree - 2 targets only?

[Doror]

I searched a few pages back and couldn't see any discussion on this topic.
I have a ranger with the split the tree daily, can I not use it vs a single foe?

Not being able to use my daily in some bossfights is kind of weird.

 

[hong]

I don't have a problem with using this with a single target. You shoot the ground or something.

(No, you don't get to do all your shots on the one guy.)

 

[Dalzig]

Targets: Two creatures within 3 squares of each other

Yup, you need two targets.

If you want to use it on one creature... just use Twin Strike. It's 90% the same thing.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Yup, you need two targets.

If you want to use it on one creature... just use Twin Strike. It's 90% the same thing.

uh, two rolls to hit, take best one and do 2d10+dex vs make two attacks doing 1d10 each? I don't think so!

Hongs solution is the sensible one. You use the mechanics as written, and one arrow hits the target and the other arrow is wasted. You still get to roll twice and do 2[W]+dex damage though.

 

[Dalzig]

uh, two rolls to hit, take best one and do 2d10+dex vs make two attacks doing 1d10 each? I don't think so!

Hongs solution is the sensible one. You use the mechanics as written, and one arrow hits the target and the other arrow is wasted. You still get to roll twice and do 2[W]+dex damage though.

Hey, I said 90%, not 99.9%.

 

[Mengu]

I don't have a problem with using this with a single target. You shoot the ground or something.

(No, you don't get to do all your shots on the one guy.)

This is how we've been playing it, except it's kind of silly to have to shoot the ground. So we just shoot the bag of rats. Or... shoot one arrow.

 

[Keenath]

Since the power says it targets "two creatures", you have to target two creatures. Split is for hitting the boss monster and one of his companions at the same time. If you're really worried about your single-target damage, you should take Bear Trap instead.

I disagree that you can "shoot the ground". As written, the power requires you to have two creatures to attack, not a creature and an object. And while there's a certain sense to it, I'm not comfortable with going around removing the "situational" requirements from daily powers. There are lots of powers have special requirements that shouldn't just be randomly bypassed. I won't remove the Rogue's "must be wielding a light blade" limitation; I won't let a fireball automatically ignore allies; and I won't let a ranger use Split The Tree against only one target.

 

[hamishspence]

Some powers say 1 or 2 creatures, max 1 hit per creature

If split the Tree doesn't, it isn't.

 

[Mengu]

Choosing Targets PHB page 272:

When you use a melee attack or a ranged attack, you can target a square instead of an enemy.​

 

[Hypersmurf]

Choosing Targets PHB page 272:

When you use a melee attack or a ranged attack, you can target a square instead of an enemy.

Yeah - there might be an invisible guy there!

-Hyp.