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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3097697" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Edena_of_Neith here. Greetings to one and all on ENWorld.</p><p> I have come late to the party, but have now read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Observing the style of writing and subject matter, and having seen the films made so far, I skipped forward and read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Now I am reading Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. I intend to go back and read the three books I skipped concurrently.</p><p></p><p> I think a lot could be said (and a lot has been said, obviously) about Harry Potter and the whole genre, and I wished to start a thread here on ENWorld in which that could be done. I am hoping that people interested in the subject would care to discuss it, remark on it, and give their opinions on it.</p><p> Here are some comments and opinions that come to my mind:</p><p></p><p> - Rowling is a Great Writer, and will be remembered as one, up there with the legendary historical British authors.</p><p> - The Harry Potter books have a lot of magical stuff (as it were) in them, but they are not at all about magic.</p><p> - Harry Potter is as grim, dark, gritty, and moralistic as Pinnochio (the original book.)</p><p> - Harry Potter emphasizes the profound unfairness of the world, in allegory.</p><p> - Hermione is clearly Harry's superior as a wizard, in every respect except flying magic.</p><p> - One must wonder why Dumbledore does not require Harry and Snape to sit down and talk matters out, in an attempt at reconcilation ... considering how counterproductive their antagonism is.</p><p> - I wonder how many parents would place their children at Hogwart's, if such a place existed (if magic and Voldemort and all the rest actually existed.) If they would, would they tolerate Hogwart's treatment of their children. Would they, for example, tolerate the high injury rate associated with Quidditch? Would they tolerate life threatening detentions in the Forbidden Forest?</p><p> - What level would Harry Potter be, in his various years, in D&D? Ron? Hermione? McGonagal? Snape? Dumbledore? Voldemort? What manner of translation would be needed to make Hogwart's into a 3rd edition setting, or vice versa?</p><p> - If you were to translate, what translates to what? That is, which hex or curse is what spell in D&D? Which ability is which Feat? Which approach translates to which Prestige Class? Are we dealing with wizards, sorcerers, both, or something else here, to begin with? </p><p> - In Harry Potter, it seems wizards rule the world. Do they? Would they do so in D&D, if they could so freely cast spells instead of using the Vancian system? Or perhaps their need for focuses (wands) is a crippling drawback? If they are so powerful, what would one do with fighters, rogues, and clerics to compensate them in a Harry Potter setting?</p><p> - And so on ... </p><p></p><p> It is hard to know where to begin with Harry Potter. There's a lot there to mull over. It is nothing short of amazing that so many themes, plots, sub-plots, characters, and complexities came from the mind of one person. Rowlings is nothing short of a genius. My opinion.</p><p></p><p> The floor is open here ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3097697, member: 2020"] Edena_of_Neith here. Greetings to one and all on ENWorld. I have come late to the party, but have now read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Observing the style of writing and subject matter, and having seen the films made so far, I skipped forward and read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Now I am reading Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. I intend to go back and read the three books I skipped concurrently. I think a lot could be said (and a lot has been said, obviously) about Harry Potter and the whole genre, and I wished to start a thread here on ENWorld in which that could be done. I am hoping that people interested in the subject would care to discuss it, remark on it, and give their opinions on it. Here are some comments and opinions that come to my mind: - Rowling is a Great Writer, and will be remembered as one, up there with the legendary historical British authors. - The Harry Potter books have a lot of magical stuff (as it were) in them, but they are not at all about magic. - Harry Potter is as grim, dark, gritty, and moralistic as Pinnochio (the original book.) - Harry Potter emphasizes the profound unfairness of the world, in allegory. - Hermione is clearly Harry's superior as a wizard, in every respect except flying magic. - One must wonder why Dumbledore does not require Harry and Snape to sit down and talk matters out, in an attempt at reconcilation ... considering how counterproductive their antagonism is. - I wonder how many parents would place their children at Hogwart's, if such a place existed (if magic and Voldemort and all the rest actually existed.) If they would, would they tolerate Hogwart's treatment of their children. Would they, for example, tolerate the high injury rate associated with Quidditch? Would they tolerate life threatening detentions in the Forbidden Forest? - What level would Harry Potter be, in his various years, in D&D? Ron? Hermione? McGonagal? Snape? Dumbledore? Voldemort? What manner of translation would be needed to make Hogwart's into a 3rd edition setting, or vice versa? - If you were to translate, what translates to what? That is, which hex or curse is what spell in D&D? Which ability is which Feat? Which approach translates to which Prestige Class? Are we dealing with wizards, sorcerers, both, or something else here, to begin with? - In Harry Potter, it seems wizards rule the world. Do they? Would they do so in D&D, if they could so freely cast spells instead of using the Vancian system? Or perhaps their need for focuses (wands) is a crippling drawback? If they are so powerful, what would one do with fighters, rogues, and clerics to compensate them in a Harry Potter setting? - And so on ... It is hard to know where to begin with Harry Potter. There's a lot there to mull over. It is nothing short of amazing that so many themes, plots, sub-plots, characters, and complexities came from the mind of one person. Rowlings is nothing short of a genius. My opinion. The floor is open here ... [/QUOTE]
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