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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3101535" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Consider that I've read books 1 through 5 (the Order of the Phoenix), and am working on book 6. Don't spoil The Half Blood Prince for me yet, but otherwise I'm willing to discuss the earlier books.</p><p></p><p> Ok, I am going to courteously disagree again, but it seems to me that Hermione has the greater magical talent and greater magical strength (yeah I know: Edena, bite your tongue! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p> When Hermione picks up books, she is the faster one to grasp the knowledge therein. </p><p> When Hermione puts what she read into action, she is the faster and better to achieve results (a point that drove Snape nuts, I seem to remember.)</p><p> </p><p> This could be interpreted to mean, simply, that Hermione is brighter than Harry. She's smarter. Simple as that.</p><p> It could also mean she has more magical aptitude (akin to real world mechanical aptitude, or mathematical aptitude, or reading aptitude, etc.) than Harry Potter does.</p><p> It could mean both of these things.</p><p></p><p> In addition, Hermione works harder than Harry, indicating a more serious attitude towards learning and understanding (Harry's attitude towards loyalty to his friends, loyalty to his principals and values, and his attitude towards Voldemort are, of course, extremely serious and more so than Hermione's.)</p><p> While Harry, and Ronald Weasley in especial, are dreaming about Quidditch, Hermione is studying. While Harry is playing hangman in class (a REAL BAD idea at Hogwart's, in my opinion!!) Hermione is studying. While Harry is daydreaming, Hermione is studying (and listening.) While Harry is bored, Hermione is studying (and interested.)</p><p> Classically, who becomes great wizards? Those who have it all handed to them on a silver platter, or those who fight for it? (Harry fights very hard indeed, but it is for Hogwart's and his friends he fights, not to become a great wizard.)</p><p></p><p> In fact, I am beginning to wonder if Harry Potter is supposed to become a great wizard at all, or if Rowling was fooling us from the start.</p><p> Perhaps instead she meant him to be a great hero ... and a great *friend* and a great *person* ... but not so great a wizard after all. Voldemort is, indeed, a great wizard, but that is no great thing. Rather, it is a terrible thing.</p><p></p><p> Hmmm. </p><p></p><p> Then again, Harry shows that experience - hands on training - is a good way for a wizard to become a wizard. He is very bold in taking on such hands on training, from his willingness to take on Quirrel/Snape to his willingness to form and train the D.A.</p><p> Yet Hermione was there with him, every step of the way (and Ronald Weasley, too.) Perhaps Hermione is not as bold (she wasn't as eager to crash the Ministry of Magic) but she has been there every time.</p><p> And Hermione has stood against her foes in toe to toe combat with all the courage (but not the sheer ferocity, necessarily) of Harry.</p><p> So if Harry has Hermione beat on hands on experience, it is by not that much ...</p><p></p><p> That leaves the final and most important thing, and that is motivation.</p><p> In this, Harry has Hermione beaten hands down. Harry has the raw drive, the burning fire, the tempermental and explosive need, to become a great wizard.</p><p> Or does he? Because he fluctuates, vacillates, back and forth. First he is driven all but to the point of madness, obsessed to the elimination of all else, then ... he is dreaming about Quidditch. Or busy playing hangman. Then he is back to the all important drive to learn. Back and forth, back and forth.</p><p> Meanwhile, Hermione is steady in her dedication.</p><p></p><p> (muses) I must wonder who, between Harry and Hermione, would have a better chance at passing the Dragonlance Test (the Test of the Towers of High Sorcery) ?</p><p></p><p> I know it's supposedly a tight race, but I think the Great Wizard title will go to Hermione.</p><p> The Great Friend and Noble Person title will go to Harry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3101535, member: 2020"] Consider that I've read books 1 through 5 (the Order of the Phoenix), and am working on book 6. Don't spoil The Half Blood Prince for me yet, but otherwise I'm willing to discuss the earlier books. Ok, I am going to courteously disagree again, but it seems to me that Hermione has the greater magical talent and greater magical strength (yeah I know: Edena, bite your tongue! :) ) When Hermione picks up books, she is the faster one to grasp the knowledge therein. When Hermione puts what she read into action, she is the faster and better to achieve results (a point that drove Snape nuts, I seem to remember.) This could be interpreted to mean, simply, that Hermione is brighter than Harry. She's smarter. Simple as that. It could also mean she has more magical aptitude (akin to real world mechanical aptitude, or mathematical aptitude, or reading aptitude, etc.) than Harry Potter does. It could mean both of these things. In addition, Hermione works harder than Harry, indicating a more serious attitude towards learning and understanding (Harry's attitude towards loyalty to his friends, loyalty to his principals and values, and his attitude towards Voldemort are, of course, extremely serious and more so than Hermione's.) While Harry, and Ronald Weasley in especial, are dreaming about Quidditch, Hermione is studying. While Harry is playing hangman in class (a REAL BAD idea at Hogwart's, in my opinion!!) Hermione is studying. While Harry is daydreaming, Hermione is studying (and listening.) While Harry is bored, Hermione is studying (and interested.) Classically, who becomes great wizards? Those who have it all handed to them on a silver platter, or those who fight for it? (Harry fights very hard indeed, but it is for Hogwart's and his friends he fights, not to become a great wizard.) In fact, I am beginning to wonder if Harry Potter is supposed to become a great wizard at all, or if Rowling was fooling us from the start. Perhaps instead she meant him to be a great hero ... and a great *friend* and a great *person* ... but not so great a wizard after all. Voldemort is, indeed, a great wizard, but that is no great thing. Rather, it is a terrible thing. Hmmm. Then again, Harry shows that experience - hands on training - is a good way for a wizard to become a wizard. He is very bold in taking on such hands on training, from his willingness to take on Quirrel/Snape to his willingness to form and train the D.A. Yet Hermione was there with him, every step of the way (and Ronald Weasley, too.) Perhaps Hermione is not as bold (she wasn't as eager to crash the Ministry of Magic) but she has been there every time. And Hermione has stood against her foes in toe to toe combat with all the courage (but not the sheer ferocity, necessarily) of Harry. So if Harry has Hermione beat on hands on experience, it is by not that much ... That leaves the final and most important thing, and that is motivation. In this, Harry has Hermione beaten hands down. Harry has the raw drive, the burning fire, the tempermental and explosive need, to become a great wizard. Or does he? Because he fluctuates, vacillates, back and forth. First he is driven all but to the point of madness, obsessed to the elimination of all else, then ... he is dreaming about Quidditch. Or busy playing hangman. Then he is back to the all important drive to learn. Back and forth, back and forth. Meanwhile, Hermione is steady in her dedication. (muses) I must wonder who, between Harry and Hermione, would have a better chance at passing the Dragonlance Test (the Test of the Towers of High Sorcery) ? I know it's supposedly a tight race, but I think the Great Wizard title will go to Hermione. The Great Friend and Noble Person title will go to Harry. [/QUOTE]
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