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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3116673" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Spoiler Warning is up. If I create another thread (if this thread reaches 500 posts and overloads) I will put Spoiler Warnings up for subsequent threads.</p><p></p><p></p><p> SPOILING WARNING FOR ALL FUTURE POSTS IN THIS THREAD</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p> </p><p> SPOILER WARNING</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> SPOILING WARNING</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p></p><p> Ok ...</p><p></p><p> I think Rowlings made a mistake here.</p><p> The Empire Strikes Back is a good analogy, but it would have accounted for books 3, 4, and 5 in the Harry Potter series (the middle books.) We are at the end of Book 6.</p><p> Where is there enough time for Harry to find Voldemort's four remaining Horcruxes in Book Seven? Return of the Jedi needs Books 5, 6, and 7, as it were, not just book 7 (even if you leave out those ewoks ...)</p><p></p><p> What we need are Books 7, 8, and 9. Maybe 10. Voldemort carefully concealed his Horcruxes. Finding them and taking them out should take a while.</p><p></p><p> On another front, Harry is supposed to take Voldemort out. Fair enough.</p><p> But is he going to just go off and do this alone? He should realize from his own background that teamsmenship is the only way to win. He needs Hermione and Ron. He needs Neville and Lucy. He needs Ginny. He needs George and Fred. He needs McDonagall, Sprout, Flickwick, Hootch (sp?), and Lupin. And yes, he needs Snape (unfortunately, seems like Voldemort has pretty much convinced everyone on that one.)</p><p></p><p> Voldemort, if he shows up alone to fight Harry Potter, would be awfully foolish to do so, in my opinion. A smart Voldemort would have every ally he could summon to the fight, and hurl them at Harry first.</p><p> Indeed, if Voldemort looks at the facts, he will see that teamwork is what beat Dumbledore. Draco opened the door, and the Death Eaters came in force.</p><p> So if Harry DOES insist on fulfilling the prophesy literally (he just runs off and takes on Voldemort alone, as Luke did the Emperor alone), he is history. He is only a 6th level student at Hogwarts (and, I would argue, not the best or brightest of those students) not the greatest living wizard (Voldemort) in the world.</p><p></p><p> Should Rowling have made things dark? Probably.</p><p> But why this dark? Why focus on the dark so very much?</p><p> I would like to see more of Flitwick and Sprout, more of Hagrid, more of Nick, more merriment and humor and lightness. Not everything Hogwarts is Snape, or Filch, or sadistic Ministry of Magic badness.</p><p> It just seems like Voldemort and his influence has come in and taken over, right from the start. Before Harry ever had a chance to really grow to love Hogwarts as he should have loved it, Voldemort came in and poisoned everything. Voldemort, persistent Voldemort, just threw his poison splattering over every character and every event, until Hogwarts made the Dursleys seem friendly in comparison.</p><p> This is why I say it should go in the Oliver Twist category. That famous series, by the renown Charles Dickens, focused on the darkness and tragedy also. But I think this series is going to be a little rough on kids. It needs to lighten up: not everything is grim gloom.</p><p></p><p> If Rowling kills Harry Potter, as some people thought she might do, then my point is made in spades. But I hope that it doesn't come to that. What is the point of that? Where is the joy in reading for the reader if that happens? </p><p> If Ron and/or Hermione fall, the same thing goes, to a lesser extent.</p><p></p><p> Just some thoughts.</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p></p><p> SPOILER WARNING</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> SPOILER WARNING</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p></p><p> -</p><p> </p><p> SPOILER WARNING</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3116673, member: 2020"] Spoiler Warning is up. If I create another thread (if this thread reaches 500 posts and overloads) I will put Spoiler Warnings up for subsequent threads. SPOILING WARNING FOR ALL FUTURE POSTS IN THIS THREAD - - - SPOILER WARNING - - - SPOILING WARNING - - - Ok ... I think Rowlings made a mistake here. The Empire Strikes Back is a good analogy, but it would have accounted for books 3, 4, and 5 in the Harry Potter series (the middle books.) We are at the end of Book 6. Where is there enough time for Harry to find Voldemort's four remaining Horcruxes in Book Seven? Return of the Jedi needs Books 5, 6, and 7, as it were, not just book 7 (even if you leave out those ewoks ...) What we need are Books 7, 8, and 9. Maybe 10. Voldemort carefully concealed his Horcruxes. Finding them and taking them out should take a while. On another front, Harry is supposed to take Voldemort out. Fair enough. But is he going to just go off and do this alone? He should realize from his own background that teamsmenship is the only way to win. He needs Hermione and Ron. He needs Neville and Lucy. He needs Ginny. He needs George and Fred. He needs McDonagall, Sprout, Flickwick, Hootch (sp?), and Lupin. And yes, he needs Snape (unfortunately, seems like Voldemort has pretty much convinced everyone on that one.) Voldemort, if he shows up alone to fight Harry Potter, would be awfully foolish to do so, in my opinion. A smart Voldemort would have every ally he could summon to the fight, and hurl them at Harry first. Indeed, if Voldemort looks at the facts, he will see that teamwork is what beat Dumbledore. Draco opened the door, and the Death Eaters came in force. So if Harry DOES insist on fulfilling the prophesy literally (he just runs off and takes on Voldemort alone, as Luke did the Emperor alone), he is history. He is only a 6th level student at Hogwarts (and, I would argue, not the best or brightest of those students) not the greatest living wizard (Voldemort) in the world. Should Rowling have made things dark? Probably. But why this dark? Why focus on the dark so very much? I would like to see more of Flitwick and Sprout, more of Hagrid, more of Nick, more merriment and humor and lightness. Not everything Hogwarts is Snape, or Filch, or sadistic Ministry of Magic badness. It just seems like Voldemort and his influence has come in and taken over, right from the start. Before Harry ever had a chance to really grow to love Hogwarts as he should have loved it, Voldemort came in and poisoned everything. Voldemort, persistent Voldemort, just threw his poison splattering over every character and every event, until Hogwarts made the Dursleys seem friendly in comparison. This is why I say it should go in the Oliver Twist category. That famous series, by the renown Charles Dickens, focused on the darkness and tragedy also. But I think this series is going to be a little rough on kids. It needs to lighten up: not everything is grim gloom. If Rowling kills Harry Potter, as some people thought she might do, then my point is made in spades. But I hope that it doesn't come to that. What is the point of that? Where is the joy in reading for the reader if that happens? If Ron and/or Hermione fall, the same thing goes, to a lesser extent. Just some thoughts. Edena_of_Neith SPOILER WARNING - - - SPOILER WARNING - - - SPOILER WARNING [/QUOTE]
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