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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3120261" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>I dont see what any of that has to do with anything I've posted. I havent become heated or argued anything. And as I have said, the subject of orientation, of gay characters in stories, and the experiences of gay gamers have been discussed here with no problems. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You dont seem to have understood my post at all. The 6th book pretty much makes it clear that he is straight. I was mentioning my feelings on that fact, since I had felt like there were signs that he might not be, and signs also that Rowling might eventually at least include a nod to the added diffaculties of growing up gay, specifically. </p><p></p><p>There are few to no deccent gay characters in fantasy, even less who are young, and that makes me sad. Rowling seemed like an author who might try to change that, but now it appears not to be the case. </p><p></p><p>I think your making a bit of a mountain out of a mole hill here.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would any fits be thrown at you because I said I'm disapointed that Rowling didnt include any gay characters? They only close threads when people continue to fight and be nasty or post inapropriate material non stop. None of those things have happened or are likely to, and they always begin by requesting that the person drop the subject. In the unlikely event of that happening I've already said I will.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I still wouldnt use the word "dark", but thats just me. What your describing would be more like intense, gritty, unfair. I also wouldnt say she focuses on those things. basically incidences of authority types ignoring stuff serve to allow those parts of the story to continue. Granted, its also often contradicting what she's established about her characters personalities.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Dumbledore later exonerated them all for that, and gave Neville a special reward for his bravery in standing up to them, so I dont think thats a very good example.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>These things, the incidents of authority figures not solving problems are what I call characterization or plotting mistakes. She (arguably) sacrificed some of the credibility of how she has depicted the characters personalities in exchange for those characters not destroying part of her plot. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>If anyone's competence is in question, its Rowlings. But truthfully, especially for a writer like Rowling who's main strength...and obession, is highly structured plots and sub plots and mysteries and what not, she is often going to make sacrifices in other areas in order to maintain her plots, or to make maintaining them easier.</p><p></p><p>Its not what I would do, but I'm not a plot-based writer.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. But, that does take more effort, and also takes up more time and word-space. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>To return all the brighter afterwards.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, the chances of that happening are basically none. The only way I see any chance of that kind of thing happening...in any objective way...is if she does decide she never wants to write Harry stories again and doesnt want anyone yapping at her about it. But even thats unlikely because it wouldnt work, and it would turn her fanbase against her. I really, really dont think we have anything to worry about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3120261, member: 10397"] I dont see what any of that has to do with anything I've posted. I havent become heated or argued anything. And as I have said, the subject of orientation, of gay characters in stories, and the experiences of gay gamers have been discussed here with no problems. You dont seem to have understood my post at all. The 6th book pretty much makes it clear that he is straight. I was mentioning my feelings on that fact, since I had felt like there were signs that he might not be, and signs also that Rowling might eventually at least include a nod to the added diffaculties of growing up gay, specifically. There are few to no deccent gay characters in fantasy, even less who are young, and that makes me sad. Rowling seemed like an author who might try to change that, but now it appears not to be the case. I think your making a bit of a mountain out of a mole hill here. Why would any fits be thrown at you because I said I'm disapointed that Rowling didnt include any gay characters? They only close threads when people continue to fight and be nasty or post inapropriate material non stop. None of those things have happened or are likely to, and they always begin by requesting that the person drop the subject. In the unlikely event of that happening I've already said I will. I still wouldnt use the word "dark", but thats just me. What your describing would be more like intense, gritty, unfair. I also wouldnt say she focuses on those things. basically incidences of authority types ignoring stuff serve to allow those parts of the story to continue. Granted, its also often contradicting what she's established about her characters personalities. Dumbledore later exonerated them all for that, and gave Neville a special reward for his bravery in standing up to them, so I dont think thats a very good example. These things, the incidents of authority figures not solving problems are what I call characterization or plotting mistakes. She (arguably) sacrificed some of the credibility of how she has depicted the characters personalities in exchange for those characters not destroying part of her plot. If anyone's competence is in question, its Rowlings. But truthfully, especially for a writer like Rowling who's main strength...and obession, is highly structured plots and sub plots and mysteries and what not, she is often going to make sacrifices in other areas in order to maintain her plots, or to make maintaining them easier. Its not what I would do, but I'm not a plot-based writer. Indeed. But, that does take more effort, and also takes up more time and word-space. To return all the brighter afterwards. The thing is, the chances of that happening are basically none. The only way I see any chance of that kind of thing happening...in any objective way...is if she does decide she never wants to write Harry stories again and doesnt want anyone yapping at her about it. But even thats unlikely because it wouldnt work, and it would turn her fanbase against her. I really, really dont think we have anything to worry about. [/QUOTE]
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