Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
[SPOILERS] Angel Episode 1/28/2004: "Damage"
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 1339626" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>True, though I will admit Andrew taking the girl away at the end was cool.</p><p> </p><p>However, it wasn't just the fact that it was full of in-jokes from another show (though that didn't help), it was because the episode was just <em>bad</em>.</p><p> </p><p>For one, her not killing Spike was <em>extremely</em> contrived, especially once she started hallucinating about him having tortured her. Now, I'm no psych expert but I have taken a few classes, and her being psycho combined with her need for re-empowerment suggests to me (read: IMO) that she would have just dusted him and been done with it. Same thing with Idiot Guy, why didn't she just kill him? She certainly had Spike on the ropes, no reason a kick or two to the head wouldn't have snapped his neck like a twig.</p><p> </p><p>For another, the story was just boring and by the books. A homicidal maniac goes loose, we need to capture her alive. This is like the stock story for filler <em>Angel</em> episodes. I've seriously seen this premise two or three times every season. It wasn't even all that menacing, because it was <em>obvious</em> no one important was going to be hurt.</p><p> </p><p>Not to mention the complete marginalization of the rest of the cast. Last I checked, <em>Angel</em> was an ensemble show. A few shots of them talking around a desk doesn't cut it. Not to mention the fact that Spike has already gotten a show of his own this season. I can't even <em>remember</em> the last time Gunn was featured in an episode.</p><p> </p><p>The ending was complete cheese. Oh look, as if we didn't get the picture that Team Angel has lost their moral compass, let's hammer it in some more! And next week too! We've been covering this for a couple episodes now, it's time for there to be some resolution of their revelation.</p><p> </p><p>And Idiot Guy - <em>completely</em> over the top, over-acted, and just plain not funny. His double-cross was pretty telegraphed, and the speech was just plain corny, like something <em>I</em> would have written. I expect better from professional writers. And just to cap it off, another "we committed evil, we were bad, boo-hoo" conversation between Angel and Spike. </p><p> </p><p>But really, I don't really think this episode did anything that the last couple of episodes haven't. I'm talking in terms of advancing the story, of course.</p><p> </p><p>And don't even get me <em>started</em> on how rediculous them just letting Eve go is.</p><p> </p><p>No, it was just a terribly written episode.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 1339626, member: 115"] True, though I will admit Andrew taking the girl away at the end was cool. However, it wasn't just the fact that it was full of in-jokes from another show (though that didn't help), it was because the episode was just [i]bad[/i]. For one, her not killing Spike was [i]extremely[/i] contrived, especially once she started hallucinating about him having tortured her. Now, I'm no psych expert but I have taken a few classes, and her being psycho combined with her need for re-empowerment suggests to me (read: IMO) that she would have just dusted him and been done with it. Same thing with Idiot Guy, why didn't she just kill him? She certainly had Spike on the ropes, no reason a kick or two to the head wouldn't have snapped his neck like a twig. For another, the story was just boring and by the books. A homicidal maniac goes loose, we need to capture her alive. This is like the stock story for filler [i]Angel[/i] episodes. I've seriously seen this premise two or three times every season. It wasn't even all that menacing, because it was [i]obvious[/i] no one important was going to be hurt. Not to mention the complete marginalization of the rest of the cast. Last I checked, [i]Angel[/i] was an ensemble show. A few shots of them talking around a desk doesn't cut it. Not to mention the fact that Spike has already gotten a show of his own this season. I can't even [i]remember[/i] the last time Gunn was featured in an episode. The ending was complete cheese. Oh look, as if we didn't get the picture that Team Angel has lost their moral compass, let's hammer it in some more! And next week too! We've been covering this for a couple episodes now, it's time for there to be some resolution of their revelation. And Idiot Guy - [i]completely[/i] over the top, over-acted, and just plain not funny. His double-cross was pretty telegraphed, and the speech was just plain corny, like something [i]I[/i] would have written. I expect better from professional writers. And just to cap it off, another "we committed evil, we were bad, boo-hoo" conversation between Angel and Spike. But really, I don't really think this episode did anything that the last couple of episodes haven't. I'm talking in terms of advancing the story, of course. And don't even get me [i]started[/i] on how rediculous them just letting Eve go is. No, it was just a terribly written episode. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
[SPOILERS] Angel Episode 1/28/2004: "Damage"
Top