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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6582793" data-attributes="member: 53980">Ranger is a caster, but only insofar as the Paladin is a caster. IME, the 5e Paladin feels more like a martial class than a caster (though I don't deny it's there). In my previous post I should have clarified that I was speaking of full casters.Fighters could dish out decent damage in 1e/2e, but unless they happened to luck into 18/percentile Strength, their bonuses were quite marginal. You could use magic items or Wishes to increase your Strength, but that depended heavily on how generous your DM happened to be. Specialization helped, but only to a point. Admittedly, a Fighter with an 18/00 was a force to be reckoned with, but it was a rarity.In 3e, martial classes got a boost in power, but an unbuffed Fighter still couldn't hold a candle to a Wizard going nova by the mid-levels.The feeling that I've gotten while playing 5e is that the gap between casters and martials has narrowed considerably. A mid-level caster going nova can still out damage a fighter, but the fighter is in the same ballpark, not the kiddie leagues. YMMV of course.</blockquote>