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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1330413" data-attributes="member: 812">*here follows vague and unsubstantiated comments on my character*I thought we were having a conversation on the ways and means of enjoying a story. I thought I gave a pretty clear statement of what I thought your position was, and what my position is. You respond by saying what kind of a person you think I am and then by continuing to attack this strawman position ("I always guess the twists!") you've set up for yourself.If you won't address my points, I don't see how this conversation will proceed. I direct you to my last post addressed to you, where I state that it seems like your position is that we enjoy a story more if we don't apply our rational minds to it. Is that a correct statement of your position?You keep referring to "behind the story", "story-telling tricks" and so on. Can you provide a clear distinction between these sorts of objects of rational consideration and ones that you consider acceptable? And why it's okay to look for the one and not the other? Assuming, of course that I'm wrong in my original formulation of your idea and that you do believe one ought to use one's rational mind while enjoying a story.If I'm correct in that formulation, then I guess you don't agree with my statement that we best appreciate art through the simultaneous engagement of disbelief and critical judgement. If you have a contrary position, I'd be happy to hear it, but I'm getting tired of dealing with "arguments" that aren't addressing my statements.</blockquote>

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