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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 860275" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>That article doesn't exactly portray what my original point was (doh). Basically, what I have have known for years is that the films, radio dramas, novels and screenplays are all canon. However, if there are any points of contention then refer to the films for clarification. They trump all the others. However, all this info was before the new trilogy started. Lucas himself actually wrote "A New Hope" and had the other 2 original trilogy screenplays adapted into novels by other authors (Donal Glut & James Kahn). At that time he had said that those additional works were canon (again, no web link because there was no internet at that time).</p><p>There aren't really levels of canon, as mentioned. It either is or isn't. If the movie says one thing and the novel says another, the movie is correct.</p><p>Not true as to my original reasoning. However, I will concede that the link I provided does not jive. Hence, the individual can decide what he or she wishes to take from the additional movies sources and those only. Not from additional novels, comics, etc. Those are clearly marked as non-canon.</p><p>I cannot contest this and I cannot provide a weblink to the contrary.</p><p>The only exception being Lucas' own adaption of "A New Hope." This is implied rather than stated. The link doesn't verify this, of course and it is simply my own interpretation. Take it is as you will. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Ah, the internet....</p><p>The site specifically states what is canon and what is not. If it is not the movie, it is not canon. I am willing to concede that the other film sources such as screenplays and radio dramas, etc. are not canon. However, I do not consider any of the non-film adapted novels canon what-so-ever. I did like the additions in most of the movie adaptation novels (especially Episode 1's) but, alas, they are not part of Star Wars canon.</p><p>I have made that mistake before. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Basically, if we go from the starwars.com link, then only the films are canon, which was my point from the start (the novels & screenplays were an afterthought). That works for me as it makes things perfectly clear as far as canon goes. All the non-film novels are easy to remove from canon as they are obviously not authorized to be so.</p><p></p><p>I guess that for a while, the novels were used a clarification source for the movies (at least in my little world), rather than actual canon. I am living mostly in the late 80's at this point of the discussion. There were a few other Star Wars books released before Timothy Zahn's excellent "Heir to the Empire" but they were not so widely received. Since then, there have been countless additions to the Star Wars universe.</p><p></p><p>I have obviously been tainted by previous knowledge that I cannot prove at this time because the information does not appear on the net or I cannot find it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> As for my original post concerning the novels, I may be in error. However, the spirit and gist was that basically the movies are the true source of Star Wars canon. All else is just basically well-selling and professional fan-fiction. Kinda odd when you think of it... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>And to keep this on topic: Chewie is NOT dead. Not in my mind or ever. And he will live on, cameo-style in Episode 3. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 860275, member: 4779"] That article doesn't exactly portray what my original point was (doh). Basically, what I have have known for years is that the films, radio dramas, novels and screenplays are all canon. However, if there are any points of contention then refer to the films for clarification. They trump all the others. However, all this info was before the new trilogy started. Lucas himself actually wrote "A New Hope" and had the other 2 original trilogy screenplays adapted into novels by other authors (Donal Glut & James Kahn). At that time he had said that those additional works were canon (again, no web link because there was no internet at that time). There aren't really levels of canon, as mentioned. It either is or isn't. If the movie says one thing and the novel says another, the movie is correct. Not true as to my original reasoning. However, I will concede that the link I provided does not jive. Hence, the individual can decide what he or she wishes to take from the additional movies sources and those only. Not from additional novels, comics, etc. Those are clearly marked as non-canon. I cannot contest this and I cannot provide a weblink to the contrary. The only exception being Lucas' own adaption of "A New Hope." This is implied rather than stated. The link doesn't verify this, of course and it is simply my own interpretation. Take it is as you will. ;) Ah, the internet.... The site specifically states what is canon and what is not. If it is not the movie, it is not canon. I am willing to concede that the other film sources such as screenplays and radio dramas, etc. are not canon. However, I do not consider any of the non-film adapted novels canon what-so-ever. I did like the additions in most of the movie adaptation novels (especially Episode 1's) but, alas, they are not part of Star Wars canon. I have made that mistake before. :) Basically, if we go from the starwars.com link, then only the films are canon, which was my point from the start (the novels & screenplays were an afterthought). That works for me as it makes things perfectly clear as far as canon goes. All the non-film novels are easy to remove from canon as they are obviously not authorized to be so. I guess that for a while, the novels were used a clarification source for the movies (at least in my little world), rather than actual canon. I am living mostly in the late 80's at this point of the discussion. There were a few other Star Wars books released before Timothy Zahn's excellent "Heir to the Empire" but they were not so widely received. Since then, there have been countless additions to the Star Wars universe. I have obviously been tainted by previous knowledge that I cannot prove at this time because the information does not appear on the net or I cannot find it. :) As for my original post concerning the novels, I may be in error. However, the spirit and gist was that basically the movies are the true source of Star Wars canon. All else is just basically well-selling and professional fan-fiction. Kinda odd when you think of it... :) And to keep this on topic: Chewie is NOT dead. Not in my mind or ever. And he will live on, cameo-style in Episode 3. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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