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<blockquote data-quote="nikolai" data-source="post: 1274683" data-attributes="member: 10130"><p>The film is brilliant, and the effects really give us something we haven't seen before. I thought it was great. That said, I want to spend the rest of my post bitching about things I didn't like...</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In terms of plot, it diverged way to much from the books. I'm not going to list all the ways, but I think some of the Tolkien has been jiggled around with for no good reason, to the detriment of the story. I realise the demands of adaptation, but they then spend way to much time having to solve problems that never existed in the books.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There's loads of faux Shakespearian expository dialogue for the first three-quarters of an hour or so, and tonnes of voice overs. I really think most of this is redundant, some of it was pretty badly written too. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The film has a sense of real evil at some moments (I loved the gargoyles). The nazgul are at times gothic and creepy in a way they weren't in the Two Towers. That said, I think the red lighthouse eye is daft, and there isn't the sense of forboding there should have been at times. I really liked the Eye of Sauron in the first film, and the wearing the ring effect; it's a shame they've both been abandoned. And Pippin gazing into the Palantir could have and should have been really trippy - instead we get a strange glued to their hands effect. The book is really, really bleak, I don't think the film even comes close.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What's with the green fetish? I couldn't see what the big green energy spike from Minas Morgul was all about and Dead looked weird.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Siege of Minas Tirith was a let down. The book lays the events out very dramatically. I think some of this is lost, particularly with the Orc's eye view of the other side. I'd always imagined it more like Hoth.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oh and the sappy, sentimental, soft focus women and children shots. It's even worse than it was in the Two Towers. Surely there's a less blatent way of tugging at the heartstrings of the viewers than this. </li> </ul><p></p><p>Anyway, cinematically it's a triumph. There really is nothing else out there like it. Some of the special effects were so good I'm wondering whether any improvement in that area is possible. Is there any way some of the creatures could be made to look better? As far as CGI goes this may be as good as you can get it. Absolutely Stunning. I came out feeling someone had Format C:\ed my brain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nikolai, post: 1274683, member: 10130"] The film is brilliant, and the effects really give us something we haven't seen before. I thought it was great. That said, I want to spend the rest of my post bitching about things I didn't like... [list] [*]In terms of plot, it diverged way to much from the books. I'm not going to list all the ways, but I think some of the Tolkien has been jiggled around with for no good reason, to the detriment of the story. I realise the demands of adaptation, but they then spend way to much time having to solve problems that never existed in the books. [*]There's loads of faux Shakespearian expository dialogue for the first three-quarters of an hour or so, and tonnes of voice overs. I really think most of this is redundant, some of it was pretty badly written too. [*]The film has a sense of real evil at some moments (I loved the gargoyles). The nazgul are at times gothic and creepy in a way they weren't in the Two Towers. That said, I think the red lighthouse eye is daft, and there isn't the sense of forboding there should have been at times. I really liked the Eye of Sauron in the first film, and the wearing the ring effect; it's a shame they've both been abandoned. And Pippin gazing into the Palantir could have and should have been really trippy - instead we get a strange glued to their hands effect. The book is really, really bleak, I don't think the film even comes close. [*]What's with the green fetish? I couldn't see what the big green energy spike from Minas Morgul was all about and Dead looked weird. [*]The Siege of Minas Tirith was a let down. The book lays the events out very dramatically. I think some of this is lost, particularly with the Orc's eye view of the other side. I'd always imagined it more like Hoth. [*]Oh and the sappy, sentimental, soft focus women and children shots. It's even worse than it was in the Two Towers. Surely there's a less blatent way of tugging at the heartstrings of the viewers than this. [/list] Anyway, cinematically it's a triumph. There really is nothing else out there like it. Some of the special effects were so good I'm wondering whether any improvement in that area is possible. Is there any way some of the creatures could be made to look better? As far as CGI goes this may be as good as you can get it. Absolutely Stunning. I came out feeling someone had Format C:\ed my brain. [/QUOTE]
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