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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 1287504" data-attributes="member: 2572"><p>The Eagle issue just as surprising and unexpected in the book. There is no mention of them or even thier possible involvement until on the Field of Cormallen durring the battle before the Black Gate we get.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no direct reason given in the book but it might be possible to infer from a few other things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As is seen in the Hobbit the Eagles never liked Goblins/Orcs and enjoyed "cheating goblins of their sport." While they did not trust men, their hatred of the Goblins led them to join with Men, Elves, and Dwarves when it came time to fight a large Goblin army. This also brought a freindship between at least the Dwarves and the Eagles.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine.</p><p></p><p>Once again with the Eagles bearing Gandolf to Lorien it is not surprising that they are aware of the imminent danger facing Middle earth. Being freinds with both the Dwarves and Elves (at least a likely freindship with them) and already demonstrating their hatred of Orcs in the Hobbit and willingness to help men out when it comes to killing Orcs, it is not unlikely to expect their help in the great battle against Sauron. There is pleny of activy going on across middle earth at the same time as seen with attacks on Dale, Mirkwood, Rohan, and three on Lorien. It would also not be surprising if the Eagles were also involved in one or more of these battles. Now the last assault on Lorien is just 3 days before the assault on the Black Gate and if the Eagles were helping Lorien then it would be reasonable to expect Galladrial (who still has her magic and the mirror) to then send the Eagles onto the Black Gate. </p><p></p><p>So there we have the long version from the books with both direct and indirect reasons for the Eagles unexpected involvement in the final battle. So as for the film version we are given none of this. But the problem becomes their involvement is in the book and it does make really cool visual scenes so including them becomes neccesary. Should Jackson have done something to prepare us, probably but so much is already cut and this is a hard thing to show in the film. A nod is given to this with the inclusion of the moth but I think it is forgivable like many other things to leave undisclosed. The whole Eagle thing can/should be properly resolved if we get a film version of the Hobbit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Jenkin, post: 1287504, member: 2572"] The Eagle issue just as surprising and unexpected in the book. There is no mention of them or even thier possible involvement until on the Field of Cormallen durring the battle before the Black Gate we get. There is no direct reason given in the book but it might be possible to infer from a few other things. As is seen in the Hobbit the Eagles never liked Goblins/Orcs and enjoyed "cheating goblins of their sport." While they did not trust men, their hatred of the Goblins led them to join with Men, Elves, and Dwarves when it came time to fight a large Goblin army. This also brought a freindship between at least the Dwarves and the Eagles. Emphasis mine. Once again with the Eagles bearing Gandolf to Lorien it is not surprising that they are aware of the imminent danger facing Middle earth. Being freinds with both the Dwarves and Elves (at least a likely freindship with them) and already demonstrating their hatred of Orcs in the Hobbit and willingness to help men out when it comes to killing Orcs, it is not unlikely to expect their help in the great battle against Sauron. There is pleny of activy going on across middle earth at the same time as seen with attacks on Dale, Mirkwood, Rohan, and three on Lorien. It would also not be surprising if the Eagles were also involved in one or more of these battles. Now the last assault on Lorien is just 3 days before the assault on the Black Gate and if the Eagles were helping Lorien then it would be reasonable to expect Galladrial (who still has her magic and the mirror) to then send the Eagles onto the Black Gate. So there we have the long version from the books with both direct and indirect reasons for the Eagles unexpected involvement in the final battle. So as for the film version we are given none of this. But the problem becomes their involvement is in the book and it does make really cool visual scenes so including them becomes neccesary. Should Jackson have done something to prepare us, probably but so much is already cut and this is a hard thing to show in the film. A nod is given to this with the inclusion of the moth but I think it is forgivable like many other things to leave undisclosed. The whole Eagle thing can/should be properly resolved if we get a film version of the Hobbit. [/QUOTE]
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