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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 1292214" data-attributes="member: 2572">Your mostly right. For the characters the attack is successful (Maybe), but as the ring is not destroyed yet they can't realy be sure. Until they know the ring is destroyed this is just a gamble. If they die too early Sauron will then shift his attention elsewhere and Frodo will be caught and Sauron wins. No, for the characters the longer they survive the better, not because they wan't to live but because the longer they survive and draw Sauron's attention the better. Plus like with the Hobbits the reader wants Aragorn and company to live even if they are happy in dying.The eagles are mention in The Lord of the Rings twice previously, Once in FotR and Once in TT. Each time it is not an army of eagles but just Gwaihir giving gandolf a ride and the scenes are told as stories not as direct narative. The fact that they show up in number and to fight can very well be taken as sudden and whether it resolves a plot point has already been discussed pages ago.Your right I am not an expert so I can't fight a battle of litterary terms well, but writing is a form of art and it is up to the individual to interprete as they wish. Whatever we feel about or interprate in a work of art is right for us. Experts might have a wider base to draw their own interpretations from but they still can't tell me my own feelings about something.Once again we differ on our interpretations of a definition. As we all learned we can't even agree on what the definition of "is" is. I too was hoping for a good discussion and I even respect Pezagant for his writing ability and broad base of experience even if I disagree with him. I hope that everyone in this thread can continue on without bitterness. But there will be more discussions. We will go over this all again in a year when the Extended Edition comes out and we have yet another take on the story.</blockquote>

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