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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdancer" data-source="post: 1299330" data-attributes="member: 515"><p>Earlier in this thread, there was some debate as to Eowyn's reasons for wanting to enter battle. Now, I haven't read "Lord of the Rings" completely -- I've read "Fellowship" and the first half of "Two Towers" -- so I'm just speaking about the movies.</p><p> </p><p>From the movies, I don't get the impression that Eowyn is a glory hound who wants to go to war to seek honor and acclaim. And I don't understand where people get that from. I saw RotK last night for the second time, and paid particular attention to all of Eowyn's scenes. And I've watched TTT several times, in the theater and on DVD.</p><p> </p><p>The impression I get from Eowyn is not that she is seeking glory. She just wants an opportunity to do her duty, and fight as she has been trained to do. She has been trained to use a sword, just like a man, so she feels she should be allowed to go to war and fight, just like a man -- no more, no less.</p><p> </p><p>She fears being trapped into a traditional female role, someone who stays at home cooking and cleaning and sewing -- things she apparently hasn't had much training in, if you've seen TTT EE. Or being married off to some man who won't allow her to take up arms as she has been trained to do, or who will not treat her as an equal.</p><p> </p><p>She reminds me of the female pilots in the Navy and Air Force who for years fought to be allowed to fly combat missions. They had received the same training as male pilots, why couldn't they fly the same missions? They didn't want special treatment -- they just wanted equal treatment. Now they are allowed to fly any mission a male pilot is allowed to fly. They have proven in combat missions that different genitalia and/or a one chromosome difference in DNA doesn't make someone a better pilot.</p><p> </p><p>Eowyn reminds me of a backup athlete on a sports team. She doesn't necessarily want to be a star, she just wants to get into the game and prove she can contribute. "Put me in, Coach. I'm ready to play."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdancer, post: 1299330, member: 515"] Earlier in this thread, there was some debate as to Eowyn's reasons for wanting to enter battle. Now, I haven't read "Lord of the Rings" completely -- I've read "Fellowship" and the first half of "Two Towers" -- so I'm just speaking about the movies. From the movies, I don't get the impression that Eowyn is a glory hound who wants to go to war to seek honor and acclaim. And I don't understand where people get that from. I saw RotK last night for the second time, and paid particular attention to all of Eowyn's scenes. And I've watched TTT several times, in the theater and on DVD. The impression I get from Eowyn is not that she is seeking glory. She just wants an opportunity to do her duty, and fight as she has been trained to do. She has been trained to use a sword, just like a man, so she feels she should be allowed to go to war and fight, just like a man -- no more, no less. She fears being trapped into a traditional female role, someone who stays at home cooking and cleaning and sewing -- things she apparently hasn't had much training in, if you've seen TTT EE. Or being married off to some man who won't allow her to take up arms as she has been trained to do, or who will not treat her as an equal. She reminds me of the female pilots in the Navy and Air Force who for years fought to be allowed to fly combat missions. They had received the same training as male pilots, why couldn't they fly the same missions? They didn't want special treatment -- they just wanted equal treatment. Now they are allowed to fly any mission a male pilot is allowed to fly. They have proven in combat missions that different genitalia and/or a one chromosome difference in DNA doesn't make someone a better pilot. Eowyn reminds me of a backup athlete on a sports team. She doesn't necessarily want to be a star, she just wants to get into the game and prove she can contribute. "Put me in, Coach. I'm ready to play." [/QUOTE]
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