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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1302086" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>I think I'm going to disagree with you, Shadowdancer.</p><p></p><p>Eowyn doesn't have a lot of lines in the films to begin with, so each time she speaks we must assume that whatever she's saying is important enough that we must consider it carefully.</p><p></p><p>Valor is certainly very, very similar to glory. To desire a chance for valor is pretty much to desire a chance to show how great you are, and pretty much an assertion that valor unnoticed by others is worthless.</p><p></p><p>And again to take your example of her reaction to being sent to guard the caves -- isn't it true that what people say in their unguarded moments reveals more about their character than anything else?</p><p></p><p>Eowyn's reaction to the news is not concern for Aragorn and her uncle, who will be facing the onslaught, not indignation that her contributions to the defense are under-rated, but rather that she is being robbed of what she sees as a chance for reknown.</p><p></p><p>Her priority is not to save her people. Nor even to save the man she's coming to love. Her priority, the only thing she mentions in this moment, is to have a chance to show how great she is.</p><p></p><p>There is one more very telling example -- when Theoden makes her Queen. He says "You're Queen now, so you have to look after the nation." Her king, her uncle gives her a direct order, the importance of which is clear -- and she disobeys him. Not even openly -- she conceals herself and disregards her duty to her people and her king.</p><p></p><p>For what? For glory.</p><p></p><p>I think it's clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1302086, member: 812"] I think I'm going to disagree with you, Shadowdancer. Eowyn doesn't have a lot of lines in the films to begin with, so each time she speaks we must assume that whatever she's saying is important enough that we must consider it carefully. Valor is certainly very, very similar to glory. To desire a chance for valor is pretty much to desire a chance to show how great you are, and pretty much an assertion that valor unnoticed by others is worthless. And again to take your example of her reaction to being sent to guard the caves -- isn't it true that what people say in their unguarded moments reveals more about their character than anything else? Eowyn's reaction to the news is not concern for Aragorn and her uncle, who will be facing the onslaught, not indignation that her contributions to the defense are under-rated, but rather that she is being robbed of what she sees as a chance for reknown. Her priority is not to save her people. Nor even to save the man she's coming to love. Her priority, the only thing she mentions in this moment, is to have a chance to show how great she is. There is one more very telling example -- when Theoden makes her Queen. He says "You're Queen now, so you have to look after the nation." Her king, her uncle gives her a direct order, the importance of which is clear -- and she disobeys him. Not even openly -- she conceals herself and disregards her duty to her people and her king. For what? For glory. I think it's clear. [/QUOTE]
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