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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 2487362" data-attributes="member: 9249">One trend I've noticed in the Complete series, and generally any books with new base classes, is that all the new casters are spontaneous. (With the exception of the Wu Jen, which I refuse to acknowledge.) Hexblades, Spellthieves, Warmages, Spirit Shamen, Shugenjas, and Favored Souls are all spontaneous casters, leaving the Wizard, Cleric, and Druid to hold up the "studious" end of the stick. (Paladins are already taken care of, being a PrC that grants levels in a previous divine class.) Now, for the Cleric and Wizard, this makes all the sense in the world to me. They're the most formalized practicioners of their flavor of magic. They're the ones that stay up until the wee hours of the morning looking over old scrolls (whether studying arcane laws or religious texts) and generally doing the stuff that lends itself to spell preparation. On the other hand, for the Ranger and Druid, it just doesn't feel right to me. They don't have time (or space) for spellbooks or prayerbooks, and the needs of wilderness survival just aren't the same as the temple or the laboratory. They need to be ready to respond to whatever pops up. Basically, what I'm thinking of doing is slapping them with Spells Known lists, which they pick from their class list. Druids would probably follow the Shugenja pattern, with the Order spell replaced by summon nature's ally, and the favored element spells focused on some other aspect of nature, while Rangers would follow the Hexblade pattern. I'd leave the spellcasting statistic for both classes as Wisdom, as neither Druids nor Rangers are expected to be particularly charismatic. Is this a good idea? Are there any proposed modifications? I could probably model Druid spellcasting in a number of different ways-- I could even rip the mechanics straight out of Spirit Shaman, since they use the same spell list.</blockquote>

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