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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Liquidsabre" data-source="post: 1776050" data-attributes="member: 15635">Absolutely wonderful! Wouldn't ever go back to core metamagic. The metamagic feats above +0/+1 are actually worth taking and using with SM!As Thanee mentioned, the spell slot increase for a metamagic feat still acts as a marvelous restriction (only able to cast metamagic'd spells as per the core rules, so a caster with access to 5th level spells can only cast 1st level spells or lower as Quicken spells).Thanee is also dead-on about spontaneous casters losing out abit (already able to spontaneously cast metamagic spells already) by making SM available to all. Though quicken spell ability and Spontaneous Casting as a standard action are pretty nice. Plus being able to take Empower Spell feat twice for a total of 6 uses/day is also a neat and balanced option for spontaneous casters such as sorcerers who cast so many spells.One interesting note is the use of the +0 spell slot metamagic feats, where before they could be prepared with all spells, or cast innumerable times/day with core rules. Making +0 spell slot MM use only 3/day may be a bit too harsh in my experience. I'd suggest going with a 6/day usage for +0 slot MM feats or simply making use of the +0 slot MM feats as per the core rules (must be prepared or cast full-round) for infinite use.Not sure about how Heighten Spell feat would work in spontaneous metamagic, so there may be questiosn that arise there. We haven't seen it in play at the game table. At only 3/day I don't see anything terribly wrong with allowing it.</blockquote>

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