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<blockquote data-quote="Axegrrl" data-source="post: 1491313" data-attributes="member: 17584"><p>If there's one thing I've learned from looking over assorted prestige classes, it's that they are *not* balanced -- either against each other or against the core classes. </p><p></p><p>Magic-based prestige classes (whether arcane or divine) typically have +1 caster level *and* a special ability for *every* level. That's definitely more powerful than the base class. The Loremaster and the Red Wizard are both examples of that -- at a couple of levels, the Red Wizard gets *two* specials in addition to the spells. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So consider: </p><p>Requirements: </p><p>- Ability to spontaneously cast both 2nd-level divine and 2nd-level arcane spells (translation: entry requirement is level 9).</p><p>- Skills: Spellcraft 8 ranks, Knowledge (Religion) 8 ranks (translation: you spend 16 out of your 22+(int bonus*11) skill points on these two skills). </p><p>- Feat: maybe Skill focus in either Spellcraft or Knowledge (Religion).... any others that would be apporpriate?</p><p>- Patron diety's portfolio includes magic (this works out to an alignment restriction as well, given the favored soul's 1-step alignment restriction, but restricts the choice of diety more than the favored soul class)</p><p></p><p>HD: d6 (drop by 1 from favored soul and battle sorcerer)?</p><p>BAB: as cleric (same)</p><p>Saves: as wizard (drop by 2 from favored soul; same as battle sorcerer)</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking of restricting all metamagic feats from this character -- i.e., if the character knows any metamagic feats, they've focused too much on manipulating either divine or arcane energy, and are not as open to learning to channel/cast the other type of magic. So, "must not know any metamagic feats" would be an entry requirement, and "can not learn any metamagic feats" would be a class restriction. </p><p></p><p>Another thing to consider: while this may look overpowered compared to an arcane-based prestige class, take a look at the divine-based prestige classes: d8s, cleric BAB, two good saves, special ability and spellcasting every level. </p><p>Comparing this to a cleric-based prestige class, you drop a hit die level, a good save, and all the per-level special abilities in exchange for sorcerer spells.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Axegrrl, post: 1491313, member: 17584"] If there's one thing I've learned from looking over assorted prestige classes, it's that they are *not* balanced -- either against each other or against the core classes. Magic-based prestige classes (whether arcane or divine) typically have +1 caster level *and* a special ability for *every* level. That's definitely more powerful than the base class. The Loremaster and the Red Wizard are both examples of that -- at a couple of levels, the Red Wizard gets *two* specials in addition to the spells. So consider: Requirements: - Ability to spontaneously cast both 2nd-level divine and 2nd-level arcane spells (translation: entry requirement is level 9). - Skills: Spellcraft 8 ranks, Knowledge (Religion) 8 ranks (translation: you spend 16 out of your 22+(int bonus*11) skill points on these two skills). - Feat: maybe Skill focus in either Spellcraft or Knowledge (Religion).... any others that would be apporpriate? - Patron diety's portfolio includes magic (this works out to an alignment restriction as well, given the favored soul's 1-step alignment restriction, but restricts the choice of diety more than the favored soul class) HD: d6 (drop by 1 from favored soul and battle sorcerer)? BAB: as cleric (same) Saves: as wizard (drop by 2 from favored soul; same as battle sorcerer) I'm thinking of restricting all metamagic feats from this character -- i.e., if the character knows any metamagic feats, they've focused too much on manipulating either divine or arcane energy, and are not as open to learning to channel/cast the other type of magic. So, "must not know any metamagic feats" would be an entry requirement, and "can not learn any metamagic feats" would be a class restriction. Another thing to consider: while this may look overpowered compared to an arcane-based prestige class, take a look at the divine-based prestige classes: d8s, cleric BAB, two good saves, special ability and spellcasting every level. Comparing this to a cleric-based prestige class, you drop a hit die level, a good save, and all the per-level special abilities in exchange for sorcerer spells. [/QUOTE]
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