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<blockquote data-quote="monboesen" data-source="post: 1496008" data-attributes="member: 4647"><p>Well as I stated this only have a relevant meaning if the character is actually played from level 1 and all the way up. But a more likely situation would be that a players high level character has been killed. When replacing that character most dm's will let the player create a new high level character, mayber 1 or 2 levels lower than the lost one. At this point classes like Mystic theurge and the proposed Spontaneous theurge suddenly looks like a very good deal. You don't have to go through those terrible qualifying levels but start right at the point where these classes are very powerful.</p><p></p><p>I can accept this for the Mystic theurge (even have one in my campaign) but as I consider the proposed Spontaneous theurge stronger (though with a longer entry period of low power) I dont think it is a good idea to allow one. At least I would not in my game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This I just flat out disagree with. Prestige classes should never be more powerful than core classes. When they are, its bad design (and yes several official ones fall into this category). What they should be is more focused and possibly better at some things at the cost of being worse at other things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="monboesen, post: 1496008, member: 4647"] Well as I stated this only have a relevant meaning if the character is actually played from level 1 and all the way up. But a more likely situation would be that a players high level character has been killed. When replacing that character most dm's will let the player create a new high level character, mayber 1 or 2 levels lower than the lost one. At this point classes like Mystic theurge and the proposed Spontaneous theurge suddenly looks like a very good deal. You don't have to go through those terrible qualifying levels but start right at the point where these classes are very powerful. I can accept this for the Mystic theurge (even have one in my campaign) but as I consider the proposed Spontaneous theurge stronger (though with a longer entry period of low power) I dont think it is a good idea to allow one. At least I would not in my game. This I just flat out disagree with. Prestige classes should never be more powerful than core classes. When they are, its bad design (and yes several official ones fall into this category). What they should be is more focused and possibly better at some things at the cost of being worse at other things. [/QUOTE]
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