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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tervin" data-source="post: 4385299" data-attributes="member: 66491">Now that was a mess.Some things he says are just confusing, but might just be that he is not that well prepared. It also seems that he doesn't remember the rules of the game that he claims to prefer. His description of the how thieves skills work in original AD&D is for example really a description of 2E. Also his claim that rangers were more different from each other in AD&D than in 4E seems like he is misremembering. With 3E core you can make characters that are more different from each other than you can with 4E core. With any of the AD&D versions? Not a chance. In many ways he has picked up a few things here and there of the new system, but missed a lot of other stuff. It is kind of weird to me that somebody would take the time to make a review, when he hasn't taken the time to learn his subject and check his facts. Basically he is guessing how things in the new edition might work, and trying to remember what other games are like all through his ramble.I agree that there are things in 4E that are not perfect, some of them even quite bad. He didn't know the game well enough to get to those though.</blockquote>