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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 4450211" data-attributes="member: 1325">Well, that might or might not be a concern with regads to how you play your game.But you are significantly ignoring many facts:1) Your comparison only looks at the very peak; 20th level can hardly be said to be valid for most compaigns. 2) In any given battle, a character only has a certain number of limited actions each round, even with Quicken spell feat, metamagic rods, etc. Thus the character is stymied in the that more of his greater "SPR" is actually tied up in lower level spells, which are easier to save against, and do less damage, and require more time.No one doubts that the major advantage of the theurges is their staying power: they have a humungous amount of spells in their arsenal. They are, however, less efficient, for the vast majority of their career. You choose to look only at the very peak, and even then, they are still lacking; they have no access to 9th level spells!I have never had a problem with them in my game.</blockquote>