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SPR: Quantification of the "Theurge-style" PrCls
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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4450254" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>True, but I have only so much time.</p><p></p><p>Choose whatever level you want- the formula is simple: </p><p></p><p>SPR = A(2d6*1) + B(2d6*2) + C(2d6*3) + D(2d6*4) + E(2d6*5) + F(2d6*6) + G(2d6*7) + H(2d6*8) + I(2d6*9)</p><p></p><p>or simplified:</p><p>SPR = A(2d6) + B(4d6) + C(6d6) + D(8d6) + E(10d6) + F(12d6) + G(14d6) + H(16d6) + I(18d6)</p><p></p><p>Where the letters represent Spell slots of a given level, (Levels 1-9).</p><p></p><p>Figure out what level you want, and go from there. (Remember that unlike other MT-style classes, the UM doesn't have a uniform progression...at 1, 4, and 7, only one class gets boosted)</p><p></p><p>I'm guessing its right as the S/W/UM PC is hitting the real power boost when he first gets access to 5th level spells. (See below.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not quite.</p><p></p><p>For the base classes, the breakdown is a nice, gently sloping curve.</p><p></p><p><strong>Wiz20 SPR/level breakdown:</strong></p><p>1st 8d6</p><p>2nd 16d6</p><p>3rd 24d6 </p><p>4th 32d6</p><p>5th 40d6</p><p>6th 48d6</p><p>7th 56d6</p><p>8th 64d6</p><p>9th 72d6</p><p></p><p>a nice, linear progression.</p><p></p><p><strong>Sorc5/FocSpecWiz5/Ultimate Magus10 SPR/level breakdown:</strong></p><p>1st 24d6</p><p>2nd 48d6</p><p>3rd 72d6 </p><p>4th 96d6</p><p>5th 120d6</p><p>6th 132d6</p><p>7th 126d6</p><p>8th 96d6</p><p>9th 0d6</p><p></p><p>You get a steep curve with an abrupt cliff.</p><p></p><p>At the peak, a lot of SPR- 378 is grouped not at low levels, but rather at 5-7th level spells. That's right...there is more SPR in those 3 levels than in the entirety of the Wiz 20.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know that. Like I said, its not a perfect metric. Not all spells are created equal, even within a given level, and across levels, you can get a wildly different potential power. This metric reduces all of those potential variables down to a single, easily measured one.</p><p></p><p>If it helps, consider this as an extreme abstraction of casters each with access to the best possible spells in identical situations. Since each caster is casting the same spells, we need not consider variables within the mechanics of individual spells. The 2d6/spell level per slot is our common denominator.</p><p></p><p>But you're still talking more SPR in the S/W/UM PC's 8th level slots than in the Wiz20's 9th level slots. If you look at those 9th level spells, more of them are of the oddball variety- Mass This, Greater That, and of course, Wish. Its entirely probable that most of all results gotten from the casting of a 9th level spell could be gotten from a sufficient number of spells of 8th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4450254, member: 19675"] True, but I have only so much time. Choose whatever level you want- the formula is simple: SPR = A(2d6*1) + B(2d6*2) + C(2d6*3) + D(2d6*4) + E(2d6*5) + F(2d6*6) + G(2d6*7) + H(2d6*8) + I(2d6*9) or simplified: SPR = A(2d6) + B(4d6) + C(6d6) + D(8d6) + E(10d6) + F(12d6) + G(14d6) + H(16d6) + I(18d6) Where the letters represent Spell slots of a given level, (Levels 1-9). Figure out what level you want, and go from there. (Remember that unlike other MT-style classes, the UM doesn't have a uniform progression...at 1, 4, and 7, only one class gets boosted) I'm guessing its right as the S/W/UM PC is hitting the real power boost when he first gets access to 5th level spells. (See below.) Not quite. For the base classes, the breakdown is a nice, gently sloping curve. [B]Wiz20 SPR/level breakdown:[/B] 1st 8d6 2nd 16d6 3rd 24d6 4th 32d6 5th 40d6 6th 48d6 7th 56d6 8th 64d6 9th 72d6 a nice, linear progression. [B]Sorc5/FocSpecWiz5/Ultimate Magus10 SPR/level breakdown:[/B] 1st 24d6 2nd 48d6 3rd 72d6 4th 96d6 5th 120d6 6th 132d6 7th 126d6 8th 96d6 9th 0d6 You get a steep curve with an abrupt cliff. At the peak, a lot of SPR- 378 is grouped not at low levels, but rather at 5-7th level spells. That's right...there is more SPR in those 3 levels than in the entirety of the Wiz 20. I know that. Like I said, its not a perfect metric. Not all spells are created equal, even within a given level, and across levels, you can get a wildly different potential power. This metric reduces all of those potential variables down to a single, easily measured one. If it helps, consider this as an extreme abstraction of casters each with access to the best possible spells in identical situations. Since each caster is casting the same spells, we need not consider variables within the mechanics of individual spells. The 2d6/spell level per slot is our common denominator. But you're still talking more SPR in the S/W/UM PC's 8th level slots than in the Wiz20's 9th level slots. If you look at those 9th level spells, more of them are of the oddball variety- Mass This, Greater That, and of course, Wish. Its entirely probable that most of all results gotten from the casting of a 9th level spell could be gotten from a sufficient number of spells of 8th level. [/QUOTE]
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