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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4470100" data-attributes="member: 19675">No, of course not.  They were just creating a nifty kind of feat.By converting slots into #Slots(Spell Lvl*2d6), that is exactly the description of what the feat's mechanical effect is.1) This feat and ones like it also specifically equate damage and spell level.  That is what they do.2) That section of the DMG is a guideline about designing new spells.  SPR isn't.Its not quite the same.There is already a very simple method for calculating damage for a 2Hd weapon- you look it up on a chart, check its size and there it is, and comparing it to other weapons is as easy as that.  Pretty much everything else is gravy. (Yes, there are weapons that have special qualities, or have a damage type that is more commonly resisted than others, but for base damage, all you need is the chart.)There is NO equivalent for spells.Back to green slime's proposal about using Innate Spell for comparison for a momentNow compare a Beguiler and a Warmage using that feat.  (The classes have identical SPRs.)The Warmage can use the Magic Missile analysis green slime already prepared.  The Beguiler, OTOH, has no such 1st level damage dealing spell.  He could have Mage Armor up 24/7...or affect a whole bunch of critters with his Color Spray, but how many?Is that > 252,000 average damage, < 252,000 average damage, or = 252,000 average damage?Is the Warmage better than the Beguiler?  Yes, if you add the clause "at dealing damage with spells" to that sentence.SPR doesn't even ask those kinds of questions.  It just looks at one particular resource casters have and gives it a numerical value.Its no more deceptive than any other statistical measurement.  It has to be placed within the proper context.A-Rod has a great batting average and hits a ton of home runs.  That makes him a great hitter, right?By most standards, yes.OTOH, a great number of his hits and homers come when his team is either well ahead or well behind their opponents- and to make things worse, those hits rarely come with runners in scoring position.  By those and other stats, he's counted among the worst hitters in the league.</blockquote>

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