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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3926714" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I'd say you're both wrong <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>"Moving in this way" refers to moving before and after the attack.</p><p></p><p>Running around the person, hitting him, running around him again, and running away is "moving in this way", and the movement provokes no AoO. So I disagree with you.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, moving up, attempting to disarm, and moving away provokes no AoO for movement - since the movement is "moving in this way"; however, the disarm attempt is not covered by the Spring Attack feat, and provokes as normal. So I disagree with him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly; the AoO you are trying to claim for running around the opponent results from leaving a threatened square, and thus the feat prevents it.</p><p></p><p>There is no "moving within a threatened space" AoO; there is only a "leaving a threatened square" AoO, which is what provokes the AoO when you <em>do</em> move within a threatened space... since that by necessity includes leaving a threatened square.</p><p></p><p>But that's almost irrelevant, since Spring Attack doesn't say "leaving a threatened square does not provoke"; it says "moving in this way", where "moving in this way" means "moving before and after the attack". Which in no way excludes moving within a threatened space.</p><p></p><p>Indeed, if your interpretation were correct, it would negate one of the primary uses of the feat - namely, attacking a creature with reach (for example, an ogre) without incurring an AoO for passing through the threatened area on your way to an adjacent square you can attack from.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3926714, member: 1656"] I'd say you're both wrong :) "Moving in this way" refers to moving before and after the attack. Running around the person, hitting him, running around him again, and running away is "moving in this way", and the movement provokes no AoO. So I disagree with you. On the other hand, moving up, attempting to disarm, and moving away provokes no AoO for movement - since the movement is "moving in this way"; however, the disarm attempt is not covered by the Spring Attack feat, and provokes as normal. So I disagree with him. Exactly; the AoO you are trying to claim for running around the opponent results from leaving a threatened square, and thus the feat prevents it. There is no "moving within a threatened space" AoO; there is only a "leaving a threatened square" AoO, which is what provokes the AoO when you [i]do[/i] move within a threatened space... since that by necessity includes leaving a threatened square. But that's almost irrelevant, since Spring Attack doesn't say "leaving a threatened square does not provoke"; it says "moving in this way", where "moving in this way" means "moving before and after the attack". Which in no way excludes moving within a threatened space. Indeed, if your interpretation were correct, it would negate one of the primary uses of the feat - namely, attacking a creature with reach (for example, an ogre) without incurring an AoO for passing through the threatened area on your way to an adjacent square you can attack from. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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