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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 644919" data-attributes="member: 1194">ya, that's a good point about the Fleet Runner of Ehlonna PrC - I thought about that when re-reading this thread.But there are some other ways I just tremembered to perhaps get the effect that Piratecat's looking for:Pcat - if all you want is to be able to full-attack, then move away from an opponent, you could get it with just Haste for moveing close, then have a guy with Reach do a full-attack, then 5' step back.This will put him out of reach of a full attack from any creature without reach.And all that Spring Attack combo you're looking for would get you is effectively the same thing : even if they could do a full move away, they'd still likely be within striking distance of their opponent.So as long as you get more than 5' + (the opponent's reach) away, than they won't get a full attack against you.This could also be done more effectively if your guy has Reach and a reach weapon (25' away after a 5' step back after a full attack), OR if your guy has some Knockback or Improved Bull Rush ability.Knockback is MoF, +3 enchantment that pushes foes back (might stun).If you don't want a Reach weapon, Improved Shield Bash gives free Bull Rushes so you can push the opponent back also (Large creature with Impr. Shield Bash and reach could get 20' away with 5' step back after full attack).</blockquote>