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<blockquote data-quote="jontherev" data-source="post: 399111" data-attributes="member: 1451">I disagree.&nbsp; Taking a 5' step means you are being careful and avoiding AoO's.&nbsp; As soon as you move, you will get AoO's from 3 foes in the original example, unless you first declared your movement to be a 5' step.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp; You cannot decide whether your 5' step was a move or an actual 5' step AFTER you have moved.&nbsp; This must be decided before you move at all.&nbsp; For, if you take a 5' step, your movement is gone for the remainder of the round (unless hasted)...that's why you don't get any AoO's for the movement, because you are being careful.&nbsp; Just moving 5' will get you 3 AoO's, but if you have spring attack (and/or, if you have Haste), it leaves the door open for more movement.Note, that this is not usually a problem, because most pc's don't have Spring Attack...so a 5' step WOULD be that same as a 5' move in most cases.&nbsp; It becomes important to distinguish between the 2 moves when Spring Attack or Haste is involved.&nbsp; You only get one 5' step/round.&nbsp; This is how I understand the rules to work.&nbsp; If you play as you do, then problems will inevitably occur.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jontherev, post: 399111, member: 1451"] I disagree. Taking a 5' step means you are being careful and avoiding AoO's. As soon as you move, you will get AoO's from 3 foes in the original example, unless you first declared your movement to be a 5' step. Period. You cannot decide whether your 5' step was a move or an actual 5' step AFTER you have moved. This must be decided before you move at all. For, if you take a 5' step, your movement is gone for the remainder of the round (unless hasted)...that's why you don't get any AoO's for the movement, because you are being careful. Just moving 5' will get you 3 AoO's, but if you have spring attack (and/or, if you have Haste), it leaves the door open for more movement. Note, that this is not usually a problem, because most pc's don't have Spring Attack...so a 5' step WOULD be that same as a 5' move in most cases. It becomes important to distinguish between the 2 moves when Spring Attack or Haste is involved. You only get one 5' step/round. This is how I understand the rules to work. If you play as you do, then problems will inevitably occur. [/QUOTE]

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