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<blockquote data-quote="prankster" data-source="post: 404166" data-attributes="member: 8029">But what about the poor dm? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As a DM I think the problem isn't so much that the player gets to cheat the system, but instead that it makes the DMs life a pain in the ass.O&nbsp; E&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; OME&nbsp; M ME:&nbsp; I move 5 feet between the Ogre I'm attacking (O) and the other random enemy (E).DM: Okay, it's a five foot step, there's no AOO.ME:&nbsp; I strike the Ogre with my powerful palm strike (tm) for 14 points of damage, and run away behind the paladin.DM:&nbsp; Okay, well that retro-invokes the AOO, which hit you for 17 points, bringing you&nbsp; to -7, so that moves..umm you here, subtract 7, add 14 to my ogre.. Which ogre was that again....(expunged DM profanity).A lot of work vs. the player saying &quot;I spring attack.&quot;&nbsp; Besides the player should remember what he's doing fer chrissakes, and there are plenty of times when she wouldn't want the secondary move (to perform a full round action at close range next roundd, etc..).What about requiring a min. 10 foot move in for spring attack?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="prankster, post: 404166, member: 8029"] [b]But what about the poor dm? :)[/b] As a DM I think the problem isn't so much that the player gets to cheat the system, but instead that it makes the DMs life a pain in the ass. O E >>> OME M ME: I move 5 feet between the Ogre I'm attacking (O) and the other random enemy (E). DM: Okay, it's a five foot step, there's no AOO. ME: I strike the Ogre with my powerful palm strike (tm) for 14 points of damage, and run away behind the paladin. DM: Okay, well that retro-invokes the AOO, which hit you for 17 points, bringing you to -7, so that moves..umm you here, subtract 7, add 14 to my ogre.. Which ogre was that again....(expunged DM profanity). A lot of work vs. the player saying "I spring attack." Besides the player should remember what he's doing fer chrissakes, and there are plenty of times when she wouldn't want the secondary move (to perform a full round action at close range next roundd, etc..). What about requiring a min. 10 foot move in for spring attack? [/QUOTE]

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