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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 149011" data-attributes="member: 1077">I don't know how else to explain it...&nbsp; It may sound funny, but a Move IS NOT an action.&nbsp; There is no place I am aware of which defines a move as an action.&nbsp; Here is the definition of Standard Action.&nbsp; Someone, anyone, if you want to make me shut up and agree with you, please show me where it says or even hints at a move as being an action OR a move is an action within a Standard Action or that a Move is treated like an action in the following quotes:To me the &quot;do something&quot; part is an action and the Move part is just a move, and not considered an action.&nbsp; Doesn't state otherwise, so lets go on.This is the bulk, the meat of my defense.&nbsp; Quite simply this is saying that you can take your move before or after you complete the action you decided to do.&nbsp; This action (as well as the move) is part of the Standard Action, but the move isn't necessarily an action (as it is never stated) however the activity you are performing obviously is (because it is called an action).Note that there is no mention of the word move in this sentance.&nbsp; This sentance is referring to the ACTION you can perform within the Standard Action.&nbsp; It defines the amount of time that is used when performing this ACTION.Notice that there are two different actions here.&nbsp; One is to dismiss a spell, the other is to use the Heal Skill.&nbsp; Notice that Move was used in BOTH cases as a Move and it was never indicated that it was a Move action.Nothing to point out on this last quote as it has nothing to do with the &quot;normal&quot; or &quot;regular&quot; action you get as part of your Standard Action nor does it have anything to do with the Move as part of your Standard Action.I can conclude that:Standard Action = an action + a moveAnd I want to be clear on something...&nbsp; I read the entire post where Magus_Jerel was trying to convince everyone of his ways.&nbsp; Perhaps reading that has clouded my mind because I did not (and don't think I am) agree with him.&nbsp; But if what I am saying here sounds similiar to what he was trying to describe, then I guess I do agree with at least some interpretitions he is saying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 149011, member: 1077"] I don't know how else to explain it... It may sound funny, but a Move IS NOT an action. There is no place I am aware of which defines a move as an action. Here is the definition of Standard Action. Someone, anyone, if you want to make me shut up and agree with you, please show me where it says or even hints at a move as being an action OR a move is an action within a Standard Action or that a Move is treated like an action in the following quotes: To me the "do something" part is an action and the Move part is just a move, and not considered an action. Doesn't state otherwise, so lets go on. This is the bulk, the meat of my defense. Quite simply this is saying that you can take your move before or after you complete the action you decided to do. This action (as well as the move) is part of the Standard Action, but the move isn't necessarily an action (as it is never stated) however the activity you are performing obviously is (because it is called an action). Note that there is no mention of the word move in this sentance. This sentance is referring to the ACTION you can perform within the Standard Action. It defines the amount of time that is used when performing this ACTION. Notice that there are two different actions here. One is to dismiss a spell, the other is to use the Heal Skill. Notice that Move was used in BOTH cases as a Move and it was never indicated that it was a Move action. Nothing to point out on this last quote as it has nothing to do with the "normal" or "regular" action you get as part of your Standard Action nor does it have anything to do with the Move as part of your Standard Action. I can conclude that: Standard Action = an action + a move And I want to be clear on something... I read the entire post where Magus_Jerel was trying to convince everyone of his ways. Perhaps reading that has clouded my mind because I did not (and don't think I am) agree with him. But if what I am saying here sounds similiar to what he was trying to describe, then I guess I do agree with at least some interpretitions he is saying. [/QUOTE]

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