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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3698363" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think you're biggest problem is someone has already beaten you to this mechanic and done it better.&nbsp; Have you ever seen the 'Hot Pursuit' rules?&nbsp; I grant you that they aren't perfect, but if I needed a flight/chase mechanic to be central to a scene, that is where I'd be turning.&nbsp;&nbsp; You are quite correct to notice the extreme deficiency of d20's flight/chase rules, but I think without going in the cinematic direction that 'Hot Pursuit' takes the game that you really aren't gaining a whole lot.No, that out of the way, I agree that 'move fast' should be a skill, and I agree that it should be strenght based (good call!).&nbsp; So, I like the direction you are taking the rules, I just don't think you go far enough.&nbsp; I think you make moving fast too easy, and I think you are right to suggest that the penalty for overuse is your biggest problem.&nbsp; Part of the problem is that D20 uncomfortably supports fatigue rules, so its hard to do anything here.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think your dice throwing is meaningful or adds to the game.&nbsp; You system gets too dice happy for not enough play value.&nbsp; Try to reduce the dice rolling down from two dice to one in most circumstances.&nbsp;&nbsp; Save the rolls for extended sprints. Throwing out a stream of consciousness here, the base DC of sprinting should go up by +5 when making a double move, and by +10 for a run (you are already assumed to be exherting yourself when doing that), you should retain your dodge AC against missile attacks when sprinting and even gain an additional dodge bonus based on your total movement rate (say +1 per 40'), sprinting when also attacking in the same round (whether charging or anything else) should carry both a two hit penalty and a penalty to ac if you make an attack unless you engage in either an overrun or bull rush attack (you are going to fast to control anything more precise).&nbsp; Limit the total time sprinting in a single hour, to like CON/2.&nbsp; Up to that, you don't have to roll endurance checks.&nbsp; After that, endurance checks get rapidly more difficult.&nbsp;&nbsp; Each time you 'max out', decrease this total time you can sprint safely in other hours of the day.&nbsp; Once you get into a 'pushing it' zone where you are up to two dice throws a round, consider a very high penalty for continuing to push it and failing like muscle injury (critical failure, take Str or Dex damage) in addition to fatigue.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3698363, member: 4937"] I think you're biggest problem is someone has already beaten you to this mechanic and done it better. Have you ever seen the 'Hot Pursuit' rules? I grant you that they aren't perfect, but if I needed a flight/chase mechanic to be central to a scene, that is where I'd be turning. You are quite correct to notice the extreme deficiency of d20's flight/chase rules, but I think without going in the cinematic direction that 'Hot Pursuit' takes the game that you really aren't gaining a whole lot. No, that out of the way, I agree that 'move fast' should be a skill, and I agree that it should be strenght based (good call!). So, I like the direction you are taking the rules, I just don't think you go far enough. I think you make moving fast too easy, and I think you are right to suggest that the penalty for overuse is your biggest problem. Part of the problem is that D20 uncomfortably supports fatigue rules, so its hard to do anything here. I don't think your dice throwing is meaningful or adds to the game. You system gets too dice happy for not enough play value. Try to reduce the dice rolling down from two dice to one in most circumstances. Save the rolls for extended sprints. Throwing out a stream of consciousness here, the base DC of sprinting should go up by +5 when making a double move, and by +10 for a run (you are already assumed to be exherting yourself when doing that), you should retain your dodge AC against missile attacks when sprinting and even gain an additional dodge bonus based on your total movement rate (say +1 per 40'), sprinting when also attacking in the same round (whether charging or anything else) should carry both a two hit penalty and a penalty to ac if you make an attack unless you engage in either an overrun or bull rush attack (you are going to fast to control anything more precise). Limit the total time sprinting in a single hour, to like CON/2. Up to that, you don't have to roll endurance checks. After that, endurance checks get rapidly more difficult. Each time you 'max out', decrease this total time you can sprint safely in other hours of the day. Once you get into a 'pushing it' zone where you are up to two dice throws a round, consider a very high penalty for continuing to push it and failing like muscle injury (critical failure, take Str or Dex damage) in addition to fatigue. [/QUOTE]

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