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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2550661" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p>I have to disagree with Henry on this one. To me, "level has little/nothing to do with your relative competence or character role" is just one more step forward on the same shining road as "character class has little/nothing to do with your character role."</p><p></p><p>Levels are a great tool for making a playable game, but they restrict character concepts immensely.</p><p></p><p>Spycraft moves further in the direction of most, say, console RPGs (ala Suikoden, Final Fantasy, Wild ARMs), where a character's game mechanic power level and his role in the story often conflict.</p><p></p><p>For instance, in Xenogears, Hyuga Ricdeau is pretty much the world's greatest spy and top five as an inventor and martial artist, but he joins as a "level 8 character." He's the best combat character in the game on a per-level basis (in d20 terms, he'd have a munchkin build stacking his +8 Int bonus multiple times to every action <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ), but he still joins at a lower level than Maria Balthasar (begins as a "level 30 character"), who in storyline terms is much less capable.</p><p></p><p>The Spycraft system lets me play a retired warlord, an active superspy and a brash young monarch, all in the same party, all at the same level, and have the game mechanics in the background working perfectly. That's a very good thing from my perspective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 2550661, member: 22882"] I have to disagree with Henry on this one. To me, "level has little/nothing to do with your relative competence or character role" is just one more step forward on the same shining road as "character class has little/nothing to do with your character role." Levels are a great tool for making a playable game, but they restrict character concepts immensely. Spycraft moves further in the direction of most, say, console RPGs (ala Suikoden, Final Fantasy, Wild ARMs), where a character's game mechanic power level and his role in the story often conflict. For instance, in Xenogears, Hyuga Ricdeau is pretty much the world's greatest spy and top five as an inventor and martial artist, but he joins as a "level 8 character." He's the best combat character in the game on a per-level basis (in d20 terms, he'd have a munchkin build stacking his +8 Int bonus multiple times to every action ;) ), but he still joins at a lower level than Maria Balthasar (begins as a "level 30 character"), who in storyline terms is much less capable. The Spycraft system lets me play a retired warlord, an active superspy and a brash young monarch, all in the same party, all at the same level, and have the game mechanics in the background working perfectly. That's a very good thing from my perspective. [/QUOTE]
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