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<blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 851243" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>Nope. I wasn't telling you what someone else thought, I was telling you what I think.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ask on the OGF lists if my own position doesn't impress you. You may get quite a few different answers. It will very likely be seen by Andy (and AV) on that list.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't think anyone was more knowledgeable about the conversion policy than you. I've always worked with the OGL and d20SL, so I would have no idea.</p><p></p><p>Have you floated this plan past Clark? I think he'd be a good person to give you an opinion and I'd think your working with him in the past would get an email answered.</p><p></p><p>Sorry I can't give you more than my own opinion on this. It isn't a matter of law, as that has already been stated by Voadam (though I do not know if Voadam is a lawyer.) My opinion, as posted above, isn't law-related. I'm saying that despite whatever the law may be that it is not a good idea to take advantage of what is obviously an oversight by WotC.</p><p></p><p>Take for instance the recent events involving one publish who wasn't allowed to get away with their mistakes (no quarter, handled strictly by the license right down to book destruction.) Weigh that against those publishers who had some books in the pipeline with some monster names that were being eliminated from the SRD and retained as IP (they could have just been told to scrap their plans, but WotC made special arrangements so that the small publishers would not lose money.)</p><p></p><p>As anyone continues to work in this industry, they have to decide whether they plan to be someone who wants to ignore the finer points (regardless of the absolute letter of the law), try to find ways to take advantage of any leeway or accidents that might present themselves and be likely be treated as "difficult to work with" and not given any leeway when some inevitable mistake is made on their part.</p><p></p><p>Or...</p><p></p><p>You can understand that sometimes things slip through the cracks and it is unwise to pounce on them since somewhere down the line you may need a bit of compassion or leeway thrown your way.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, if you get the chance to finally ask Andy you will get a definitive "yes" or "no" sooner or later, but I think it is pretty obvious that they'd prefer people not do what is proposed here and therefore (despite the fact that you may be able to "get away with it") probably better to spend your time on a project that won't be ruffling feathers.</p><p></p><p>Leave IPed names out of any third party work unless you get a special license or permission to do otherwise. At least that would be my thinking on it. Do as you will and I'll be sure to adjust my opinion if I am mistaken on this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark, post: 851243, member: 5"] Nope. I wasn't telling you what someone else thought, I was telling you what I think. Ask on the OGF lists if my own position doesn't impress you. You may get quite a few different answers. It will very likely be seen by Andy (and AV) on that list. I didn't think anyone was more knowledgeable about the conversion policy than you. I've always worked with the OGL and d20SL, so I would have no idea. Have you floated this plan past Clark? I think he'd be a good person to give you an opinion and I'd think your working with him in the past would get an email answered. Sorry I can't give you more than my own opinion on this. It isn't a matter of law, as that has already been stated by Voadam (though I do not know if Voadam is a lawyer.) My opinion, as posted above, isn't law-related. I'm saying that despite whatever the law may be that it is not a good idea to take advantage of what is obviously an oversight by WotC. Take for instance the recent events involving one publish who wasn't allowed to get away with their mistakes (no quarter, handled strictly by the license right down to book destruction.) Weigh that against those publishers who had some books in the pipeline with some monster names that were being eliminated from the SRD and retained as IP (they could have just been told to scrap their plans, but WotC made special arrangements so that the small publishers would not lose money.) As anyone continues to work in this industry, they have to decide whether they plan to be someone who wants to ignore the finer points (regardless of the absolute letter of the law), try to find ways to take advantage of any leeway or accidents that might present themselves and be likely be treated as "difficult to work with" and not given any leeway when some inevitable mistake is made on their part. Or... You can understand that sometimes things slip through the cracks and it is unwise to pounce on them since somewhere down the line you may need a bit of compassion or leeway thrown your way. Ultimately, if you get the chance to finally ask Andy you will get a definitive "yes" or "no" sooner or later, but I think it is pretty obvious that they'd prefer people not do what is proposed here and therefore (despite the fact that you may be able to "get away with it") probably better to spend your time on a project that won't be ruffling feathers. Leave IPed names out of any third party work unless you get a special license or permission to do otherwise. At least that would be my thinking on it. Do as you will and I'll be sure to adjust my opinion if I am mistaken on this. [/QUOTE]
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