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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4074322" data-attributes="member: 1054">I think there's several ways of adding 'defend your ally' mechanics without marks. Zones of control, anyone? Classic old mechanic. Or any number of &quot;I declare I am defending X, if anyone attacks X, I get a free swing at him which can do any number of things&quot; powers. For example, a fighter declares he's defending the wizard. Anyone the fighter threatens who targets the wizard suffers a -2 to all attacks as the fighter gets in the way and otherwise interferes. If three people all decide to defend the wizard...the wizard is really well defended. So it goes.Really, this is a good example of 4e being &quot;OK...cool...that's nifty...I can dig it...SAY WHAT?&quot;&quot;Marking&quot;,whether it's by 'keeping an eye on you' or invoking a magical bind or whatever -- cool enough. We can live with it. I can see a fighter saying &quot;I'm making sure that orc on the right doesn't try anything...&quot;, or a Warlock saying &quot;I shall lay my curse upon that orc, so that if he turns from my baleful gaze, he shall burn!&quot;. What I CAN'T see -- and this is the inevitable &quot;SAY WHAT?&quot; moment -- is how the warlock's curse stops the fighter's focus, or vice-versa. If stacking marks is unbalancing -- make marks weaker or impose conditions on their use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4074322, member: 1054"] I think there's several ways of adding 'defend your ally' mechanics without marks. Zones of control, anyone? Classic old mechanic. Or any number of "I declare I am defending X, if anyone attacks X, I get a free swing at him which can do any number of things" powers. For example, a fighter declares he's defending the wizard. Anyone the fighter threatens who targets the wizard suffers a -2 to all attacks as the fighter gets in the way and otherwise interferes. If three people all decide to defend the wizard...the wizard is really well defended. So it goes. Really, this is a good example of 4e being "OK...cool...that's nifty...I can dig it...SAY WHAT?" "Marking",whether it's by 'keeping an eye on you' or invoking a magical bind or whatever -- cool enough. We can live with it. I can see a fighter saying "I'm making sure that orc on the right doesn't try anything...", or a Warlock saying "I shall lay my curse upon that orc, so that if he turns from my baleful gaze, he shall burn!". What I CAN'T see -- and this is the inevitable "SAY WHAT?" moment -- is how the warlock's curse stops the fighter's focus, or vice-versa. If stacking marks is unbalancing -- make marks weaker or impose conditions on their use. [/QUOTE]

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