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<blockquote data-quote="Kosh" data-source="post: 4074423" data-attributes="member: 2185">So if you want to get rid of a mark on an ally, you have to attack him.&nbsp; Same as the Rogue's movement power.&nbsp; Sounds fine to me.&nbsp; Trading an attack and possible damage for a mark removal seems OK.How is this different from using Bull Rush in 3.x?Barbarian Bull Rushes the Wizard to get him out of harms way.Rogue tricks ally into moving away to get him out of danger.Fighter bashes Wizard with his hammer to get the Wizard's attention off of the enemy.&nbsp; Now the Wizard is focused on his &quot;ally&quot; who just smashed him, but at least he's not paying attention to that enemy soldier anymore.&nbsp; I hope it was worth it.Wizard uses Dominate on Fighter to snap him out of the Mind Flayers control.&nbsp; He used a high level spell, so I hope it was worth it.Fighter takes down Dominated Wizard Ally to prevent him from Fireballing the party.This all seem fine to me.&nbsp; The 4e examples don't seem worse than the 3e ones.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kosh, post: 4074423, member: 2185"] So if you want to get rid of a mark on an ally, you have to attack him. Same as the Rogue's movement power. Sounds fine to me. Trading an attack and possible damage for a mark removal seems OK. How is this different from using Bull Rush in 3.x? Barbarian Bull Rushes the Wizard to get him out of harms way. Rogue tricks ally into moving away to get him out of danger. Fighter bashes Wizard with his hammer to get the Wizard's attention off of the enemy. Now the Wizard is focused on his "ally" who just smashed him, but at least he's not paying attention to that enemy soldier anymore. I hope it was worth it. Wizard uses Dominate on Fighter to snap him out of the Mind Flayers control. He used a high level spell, so I hope it was worth it. Fighter takes down Dominated Wizard Ally to prevent him from Fireballing the party. This all seem fine to me. The 4e examples don't seem worse than the 3e ones. [/QUOTE]

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