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<blockquote data-quote="tglassy" data-source="post: 8340345" data-attributes="member: 6855204"><p>So a week ago or so, my group wanted me to start up a game. We alternate DM's, and often have two, or even three, campaigns going at any one time, with different people DMing, so none of us get burned out of DMing. Funny how none of us ever get burned out of playing...</p><p></p><p>Anywho, I haven't really DM'd in a while, so it was my turn to start one. I asked "What do y'all want to do?" They said "Let's go kill Asmodeus!"</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>Um...</p><p></p><p>So now we're playing a game where the primary goal will be to go through each of the nine hells until they can ultimately face the statless Asmodeus. Now, I'm well aware of who Asmodeus is. I know he's essentially a Greater Deity with absolute control over the nine hells. I know he is one of the smartest creatures in the multiverse, and I know that he's dealt with this exact scenario time and time again over the millennia. I also know that even if they were able to succeed on their quest, they'd just screw up the Balance and let Demons rampage all over the multiverse. Very well aware. </p><p></p><p>But I'm an accommodating DM. They want to do something, I want to give them the possibility of making it happen. When I ran Strahd, I provided a way for them to destroy Vampyr, the Dark Power that embodied the Mist and gave Strahd his power. It cost the party a party member, and wound up freeing Strahd from his prison, letting him escape into the Multiverse no longer a Vampire, but still a lvl 20 Wizard (I re-stated him), but they did it. I set it up as "This was Strahd's plan all along, to find a group who could kill Vampyr once and for all. And you did wonderfully!"</p><p></p><p>So I want it to be possible to kill Asmodeus. Hard as hell (hehehe), but possible. It'll be a nice "you don't know what you're doing" moment when they realize that Hell is now going to go through a succession war for the next few thousand years while the Abyss spreads like wildfire. </p><p></p><p>Anywho, I wanted to check with the hive mind to see what ideas y'all might have on the subject. If there were a means to kill Asmodeus, how would you go about it?</p><p></p><p>Note: We are starting at lvl 11, and every layer they descend will level them up. After a prologue outside of hell, they will descend to Avernus, and lvl up to lvl 12. This way, they'll be lvl 20 by the time they reach Nessus. </p><p></p><p>Note Note: We have a literal god in the party. In one of our old games, upon completion of the game, our characters became gods, and one of the players was really wanting to play her old character, so I said she could be an Avatar of her god character. They were lvl 11 at the time, anyway. I said if the Avatar died, her god character would not have the power to make a new one any time soon, so she'd effectively be out of the game. But this could open some possibilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tglassy, post: 8340345, member: 6855204"] So a week ago or so, my group wanted me to start up a game. We alternate DM's, and often have two, or even three, campaigns going at any one time, with different people DMing, so none of us get burned out of DMing. Funny how none of us ever get burned out of playing... Anywho, I haven't really DM'd in a while, so it was my turn to start one. I asked "What do y'all want to do?" They said "Let's go kill Asmodeus!" ... ... Um... So now we're playing a game where the primary goal will be to go through each of the nine hells until they can ultimately face the statless Asmodeus. Now, I'm well aware of who Asmodeus is. I know he's essentially a Greater Deity with absolute control over the nine hells. I know he is one of the smartest creatures in the multiverse, and I know that he's dealt with this exact scenario time and time again over the millennia. I also know that even if they were able to succeed on their quest, they'd just screw up the Balance and let Demons rampage all over the multiverse. Very well aware. But I'm an accommodating DM. They want to do something, I want to give them the possibility of making it happen. When I ran Strahd, I provided a way for them to destroy Vampyr, the Dark Power that embodied the Mist and gave Strahd his power. It cost the party a party member, and wound up freeing Strahd from his prison, letting him escape into the Multiverse no longer a Vampire, but still a lvl 20 Wizard (I re-stated him), but they did it. I set it up as "This was Strahd's plan all along, to find a group who could kill Vampyr once and for all. And you did wonderfully!" So I want it to be possible to kill Asmodeus. Hard as hell (hehehe), but possible. It'll be a nice "you don't know what you're doing" moment when they realize that Hell is now going to go through a succession war for the next few thousand years while the Abyss spreads like wildfire. Anywho, I wanted to check with the hive mind to see what ideas y'all might have on the subject. If there were a means to kill Asmodeus, how would you go about it? Note: We are starting at lvl 11, and every layer they descend will level them up. After a prologue outside of hell, they will descend to Avernus, and lvl up to lvl 12. This way, they'll be lvl 20 by the time they reach Nessus. Note Note: We have a literal god in the party. In one of our old games, upon completion of the game, our characters became gods, and one of the players was really wanting to play her old character, so I said she could be an Avatar of her god character. They were lvl 11 at the time, anyway. I said if the Avatar died, her god character would not have the power to make a new one any time soon, so she'd effectively be out of the game. But this could open some possibilities. [/QUOTE]
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