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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3500160" data-attributes="member: 2525">Yes.&nbsp; I feel sure.&nbsp; I am open to the possibility of being wrong, but right now I don't feel much doubt on the subject.No.&nbsp; The spell is in effect on the character.&nbsp; A replica image of that character, blur, shadows, darkness, camoflauge, other concealment, and all, are reflected in an image of that character.&nbsp; It has the realistic effect of gaining many benefits of the blur spell, but the spell itself is not in effect on the figment.The blur is not on the figment.&nbsp; But the concealment result of the blur is on the figment.&nbsp; The figment is blurry, in a literal sense.&nbsp; It's edges shake and jump around and blur, because the image it is replacting is doing so.&nbsp; I don't think this is some sort of tortured logic either.&nbsp; If I look in the mirror and jump around, my image in the mirror jumps around - not the mirror itself.&nbsp; The mirror, like the mirror image spell, is just reflecting.&nbsp; If the thing it is reflecting is hard to hit because it keeps jumping around, then the reflection itself is harder to hit because it is jumping around.&nbsp; Regardless of what made the character being reflected jump around.&nbsp; Much like your dex bonus to AC effects specifically both you and your reflected image.&nbsp; Both are dealing with issues of your image jumping around because you are jumping around.&nbsp; It doesn't mean your image has a dexertity score now and a bonus to it's dexterity.&nbsp; I just means the image gains the benefit of your dexerity, because it is reflecting your ability to jump around.The rat has concealment.&nbsp; If you tried to target the rat in the pocket, it would be harder to hit, because it has concealment.The rat has gained the benefit of concealment.&nbsp; It also has the benefit of the blur spell due to a special ability of familiars.&nbsp; But, even if it was not a familiar it still gained the benefit of concealment.&nbsp; No special power at all.&nbsp; If you are concealed, and something is on you or reflecting you, that thing is also concealed.&nbsp; And it doesn't matter how you gained the concealment.&nbsp; Whether by mundane or magical means, it matters not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3500160, member: 2525"] Yes. I feel sure. I am open to the possibility of being wrong, but right now I don't feel much doubt on the subject. No. The spell is in effect on the character. A replica image of that character, blur, shadows, darkness, camoflauge, other concealment, and all, are reflected in an image of that character. It has the realistic effect of gaining many benefits of the blur spell, but the spell itself is not in effect on the figment. The blur is not on the figment. But the concealment result of the blur is on the figment. The figment is blurry, in a literal sense. It's edges shake and jump around and blur, because the image it is replacting is doing so. I don't think this is some sort of tortured logic either. If I look in the mirror and jump around, my image in the mirror jumps around - not the mirror itself. The mirror, like the mirror image spell, is just reflecting. If the thing it is reflecting is hard to hit because it keeps jumping around, then the reflection itself is harder to hit because it is jumping around. Regardless of what made the character being reflected jump around. Much like your dex bonus to AC effects specifically both you and your reflected image. Both are dealing with issues of your image jumping around because you are jumping around. It doesn't mean your image has a dexertity score now and a bonus to it's dexterity. I just means the image gains the benefit of your dexerity, because it is reflecting your ability to jump around. The rat has concealment. If you tried to target the rat in the pocket, it would be harder to hit, because it has concealment. The rat has gained the benefit of concealment. It also has the benefit of the blur spell due to a special ability of familiars. But, even if it was not a familiar it still gained the benefit of concealment. No special power at all. If you are concealed, and something is on you or reflecting you, that thing is also concealed. And it doesn't matter how you gained the concealment. Whether by mundane or magical means, it matters not. [/QUOTE]

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