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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 535418" data-attributes="member: 4036">Oh, and as to extra turning/extra smiting...&nbsp; Nix the extra turning.&nbsp; If you are pumping your charisma for this build, that pumps your turning on it's own.&nbsp; Extra smiting has no such work around, but is largely unnecessary unless you find yourself fighting multiple 300 hp dragons per day.&nbsp; There are much better feats to take.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I'd recommend only a +1 shield of bashing, if that.&nbsp; The dice size isn't really going to matter.&nbsp; A normal shield will get by just fine and be much cheaper (allowing more charisma bonus items, like armor of command, also in Defenders of the Faith, and cloaks of charisma).&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because you are going to divine shield it.&nbsp; It gains charisma mod as an enhancement bonus to hit, damage, and AC.&nbsp; +5 shield?&nbsp; I've got a +9 shield that also adds +9 to hit and +18 to damage when I charge and bash with it!And as already mentioned, divine might is a free action now (thank you Skip!) so one action for divine shield and then go to it.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 535418, member: 4036"] Oh, and as to extra turning/extra smiting... Nix the extra turning. If you are pumping your charisma for this build, that pumps your turning on it's own. Extra smiting has no such work around, but is largely unnecessary unless you find yourself fighting multiple 300 hp dragons per day. There are much better feats to take. :) I'd recommend only a +1 shield of bashing, if that. The dice size isn't really going to matter. A normal shield will get by just fine and be much cheaper (allowing more charisma bonus items, like armor of command, also in Defenders of the Faith, and cloaks of charisma). Why? Because you are going to divine shield it. It gains charisma mod as an enhancement bonus to hit, damage, and AC. +5 shield? I've got a +9 shield that also adds +9 to hit and +18 to damage when I charge and bash with it! And as already mentioned, divine might is a free action now (thank you Skip!) so one action for divine shield and then go to it. :) [/QUOTE]

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