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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4407720" data-attributes="member: 70874">You can hold it. You just cant use it. Just like you can hold a weapon in your shield hand if you are wearing a light shield. You just cant use it.I have constructed a logical argument.I have done so in two manners.1. Definition: The Definition of the rules flows logically. Definition is a logical construct2. Disproof of opposition by showing false results: I.E. i have shown how your premise and inference produce a known false conclusion. Such, either the premise must be false or the inference must be false.That is logic.fake edit: lets expand on this and what is allows a player to do if the DM is, by your definition "reasonable. A player constructs a suit of rubber insulation with metal rods extending from it and into the ground. The player rightly claims that such a mundane suit would protect him from electricity. The DM agrees and the player puts it on over his armor...The player has now gained electricity resistance/immunity for free.He attaches a pump that is powered by movement that circulates water though other portions of the suit and then sluffs heats, and coats the outside with thin layers of ceramic plates(pottery essentially). Now he has fire resistance.And its all logical, these things will help protect him, and they aren't magical, so naturally he can just keep stacking them.He creates a valve to turn the heat sinks off. Now he has cold resistance.He puts a hand crossbow on the shoulder of the item, and ties control of aiming into his head movements by simple mechanical construction. He sets the trigger on a wire that triggers off his shield hands action. Now he has a shoulder cannon.He puts long electrodes on the end and a basic battery in the back to be charged by static and now anyone that stands next to him takes electricity damage every round...But its all retarded. Because these "reasonable" things which might make sense in the real world(or might not) fall apart when you are trying to play a game</blockquote>

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