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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rejakor" data-source="post: 5458862" data-attributes="member: 6670012">Sorry for the thread necro, but this kind of thing is exactly the kind of thing that pisses me off.A guy posts a question about the RAW of how 2 spells would interact if they were cast on the same person.He is responded to by a number of people talking about how they would personally houserule it.  Furthermore, the spells in question are called broken (when Giant Size, 7th level Wu Jen spell, is anything but - compared to Scrying and Teleport, you call that broken?) and it's strongly implied that he is a munchkin for even considering the implications of the two spells being used in conjunction.  When he tries to re-phrase his question, clarifying that he was asking about the RAW, and not, say, whether various DMs in the audience would 'allow it' or what they would houserule it to or whatever, he gets basically shouted down, he leaves, and the thread devolves into people muttering about how broken it is and how it's similar to other kinds of magic and therefore under RAW it doesn't stack or something equally ridiculous.If this happened to any other thread, the mods would be all over it for derailing in an instant.  But because of the whole massive 'no true scotsman' crap DnD has been labouring under the weight of since fecking forever, not only is this sort of useless plotz put up with, it's actively encouraged!  Damn those munchkin munchkiners!  And if you dislike it, you're a munchkiner too!1.  ALL DMS HAVE RULE 0.  IF A PLAYER DOES NOT LIKE THAT, HE CAN FIND A NEW DM.  YOU DO NOT NEED TO BEAT DOWN RULES DISCUSSIONS ON THE INTERNET SO THAT YOU CAN FEEL JUSTIFIED HOUSERULING YOUR OWN GAMES.  YOU TOTALLY CAN.  GO FOR IT.2.  IF SOMEONE ASKS ABOUT RAW, RULES AS WRITTEN, HE IS NOT ASKING ABOUT YOUR HOUSERULES.  YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BERATE HIM BECAUSE HE DOES NOT PLAY BY YOUR HOUSERULES.  YOUR HOUSERULES ARE YOUR HOUSERULES.  THEY HAVE NO BEARING AWAY FROM YOUR GAME.3.  IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GIMP HIS LEVEL 30 CHARACTER IN ORDER TO MAKE HIMSELF REALLY REALLY BIG, THEN HE IS A ROLEPLAYER.  NOT A MIN/MAXXER.  SOMETIMES TO ROLEPLAY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T A STEREOTYPE OR DRIZZT DO <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ING URDEN, YOU NEED MECHANICAL BACKING FOR THE CONCEPT.  THIS IS NOT MINMAXING.  STOP WITCHHUNTING.  THIS IS 2011.  GROW UP.4. LASTLY BUT NOT LEASTLY.  DND HAS RULES.  IF YOU ALTER THOSE RULES WITH VAGUE EXPECTATIONS LIKE 'NO MINMAXXERS' AND 'THINGS THAT ARE MAGIC AND ALTER SIZE AT ALL ARE SIZE-ALTERING MAGIC AND DON'T STACK, KIND OF, MOSTLY, ACCORDING TO MY INTERNAL SYSTEM OF HOW I THINK MAGIC WORKS' THEN YOU ARE BEING A DICK.  YOU MAY HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF PLAYERS WHO ARE MOSTLY NARRATIVISTS AND DON'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT RULES, OR HAVE PLAYED WITH VAGUE ADND HOUSERULES LIKE THAT SINCE FOREVER SO IT DOESN'T BOTHER THEM, BUT YOU ARE STILL, BEING, A DICK.  IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES AS WRITTEN, CHANGE THEM CLEANLY, CHANGE THEM CONCISELY, AND CHANGE THEM WITH A FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF THE MECHANICAL AND MATHEMATICAL UNDERPINNINGS OF THE GAME.  Cause otherwise you're rewarding the players who can read your mind and skirt the line of what you think is acceptable, and punishing those who can't, which is, since your mind isn't, y'know, readily available to the players, a DICK MOVE.Thank you, and goodnight.</blockquote>

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