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<blockquote data-quote="Sinjin the Rogue" data-source="post: 817756" data-attributes="member: 2288"><p>Incognito,</p><p></p><p>Which spell do you consider to be broken? Is polymorph self broken? If you think so, please explain why. If you believe Tensor's transformation is broken, also please explain why. </p><p></p><p>You seem to think that the combination of the two spells is broken, but again, I would ask why? I'm talking about using a 4th level spell and a 6th level spell, and the sixth level spell would only last for one combat encounter. My opinion is that combining ten spell levels in order to excel in one combat encounter is a decent, if not hefty price tag. Not to mention the fact that the ability to cast spells for the duration of the combat encounter is negated.</p><p></p><p>You may think that this tactic is "munchkin-ess", but I disagree. What I am suggesting is perfectly within the rules, and it is an intelligent use of the tools at my disposal as a wizard. I am not asking for you to allow "like" bonuses to stack. I am not asking you to allow me to use an endless stream of uber magic items. I am not asking you to allow me to polymorph into forms that the spell specifically denies. </p><p></p><p>This tactic of mine is no different than that of the paladin in our group who combines power attack, holy smite and other feats in a single attack action. He merely uses the tools at his disposal for maximum effect.</p><p></p><p>The ability to use these spells in tandem would not take anything away from anyone else in the group either. The fighter types would still be able to do what they do best. I am merely looking at means to cast spells effectively in order to damage foes and garner a favorable outcome. </p><p></p><p>If I were to cast a disintegrate spell on an opponent, would I then be depriving the fighter types of their abilities, simply because I destroyed a foe before they got the chance to get their licks in? If not, then how is it any different for me to cast a spell that enables me to have a damaging effect on an opponent for a single combat encounter? The only significant difference is that disintigrate is a 6th level spell, has to overcome spell resistance, allows a saving throw and is instantaneous. TT and Polymorph avoids SR, and it does not allow a saving throw, but the combo requires 10 spell levels as oppoosed to 6, it does have to take AC into account, it places the wizard in the front lines, it negates the ability to cast spells and it takes time to defeat an enemy as opposed to being instantaneous. I don't think this is broken or un-balancing.</p><p></p><p>However, having said all that I have said, you are the DM. If you decide to disallow this combination, then I will abide by it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sinjin the Rogue, post: 817756, member: 2288"] Incognito, Which spell do you consider to be broken? Is polymorph self broken? If you think so, please explain why. If you believe Tensor's transformation is broken, also please explain why. You seem to think that the combination of the two spells is broken, but again, I would ask why? I'm talking about using a 4th level spell and a 6th level spell, and the sixth level spell would only last for one combat encounter. My opinion is that combining ten spell levels in order to excel in one combat encounter is a decent, if not hefty price tag. Not to mention the fact that the ability to cast spells for the duration of the combat encounter is negated. You may think that this tactic is "munchkin-ess", but I disagree. What I am suggesting is perfectly within the rules, and it is an intelligent use of the tools at my disposal as a wizard. I am not asking for you to allow "like" bonuses to stack. I am not asking you to allow me to use an endless stream of uber magic items. I am not asking you to allow me to polymorph into forms that the spell specifically denies. This tactic of mine is no different than that of the paladin in our group who combines power attack, holy smite and other feats in a single attack action. He merely uses the tools at his disposal for maximum effect. The ability to use these spells in tandem would not take anything away from anyone else in the group either. The fighter types would still be able to do what they do best. I am merely looking at means to cast spells effectively in order to damage foes and garner a favorable outcome. If I were to cast a disintegrate spell on an opponent, would I then be depriving the fighter types of their abilities, simply because I destroyed a foe before they got the chance to get their licks in? If not, then how is it any different for me to cast a spell that enables me to have a damaging effect on an opponent for a single combat encounter? The only significant difference is that disintigrate is a 6th level spell, has to overcome spell resistance, allows a saving throw and is instantaneous. TT and Polymorph avoids SR, and it does not allow a saving throw, but the combo requires 10 spell levels as oppoosed to 6, it does have to take AC into account, it places the wizard in the front lines, it negates the ability to cast spells and it takes time to defeat an enemy as opposed to being instantaneous. I don't think this is broken or un-balancing. However, having said all that I have said, you are the DM. If you decide to disallow this combination, then I will abide by it. [/QUOTE]
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