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<blockquote data-quote="abyssaldeath" data-source="post: 5233978" data-attributes="member: 64213">I was trying to stay out of it, but this is just the most ridiculous statement I've heard on this subject.&nbsp; The entire argument is built off of a false statement.1: In order to count as a staff implement it has to be part of the staff group. A quarterstaff is part of the staff group and that is why it can be used as an implement.2: Wielding double weapons is like wielding a weapon in each hand.3: The Staff Fighting feat turns a quarterstaff into a double weapon. As a double weapon each end will be part of the staff weapon group because a quarterstaff is part of the staff group. Nothing about this feat changes that.4: When enchanting a double weapon both ends gain all benefits of the enchantment.Using the facts stated above it is safe to assume that when a Wizard has the Staff Fighting feat, Dual Implement Spellcaster and is wielding a quarterstaff they will get the benefit of the Dual Implement Spellcaster feat. This assumption is not a fact, but an assumption based on facts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="abyssaldeath, post: 5233978, member: 64213"] I was trying to stay out of it, but this is just the most ridiculous statement I've heard on this subject. The entire argument is built off of a false statement. 1: In order to count as a staff implement it has to be part of the staff group. A quarterstaff is part of the staff group and that is why it can be used as an implement. 2: Wielding double weapons is like wielding a weapon in each hand. 3: The Staff Fighting feat turns a quarterstaff into a double weapon. As a double weapon each end will be part of the staff weapon group because a quarterstaff is part of the staff group. Nothing about this feat changes that. 4: When enchanting a double weapon both ends gain all benefits of the enchantment. Using the [B]facts[/B] stated above it is safe to assume that when a Wizard has the Staff Fighting feat, Dual Implement Spellcaster and is wielding a quarterstaff they will get the benefit of the Dual Implement Spellcaster feat. This assumption is not a fact, but an assumption based on facts. [/QUOTE]

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