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<blockquote data-quote="webrunner" data-source="post: 5234466" data-attributes="member: 63727">You seem to be confused as to the meaning of &quot;one each&quot;.&nbsp; If you go to the store and are told &quot;it's a quarter for each pop&quot;, do you take two pops and say &quot;well it's the same quarter for each pop&quot;?&nbsp; No, that's ridiculous.&quot;each&quot; infers a counting meaning.&nbsp; You need one of one thing for every one of the other thing.You need one implement for every hand.As for the insistance that it breaks double weapons, no, it explicitly doesn't because using a double weapon counts as wielding a weapon in each hand, but the weapons it counts as wielding are different than the main weapon&nbsp;ie, the main hand of an ugrosh and the offhand f an ugrosh are not in themselves full ugroshes, but they share things such as keywords from their 'parent'.&nbsp; The same goes for quartersaffs.&nbsp; Aquarterstaff is not made up of two quarterstaffs.&nbsp; If it were each of those would also be made up of two quarterstaffs, etcIf however you are wielding, ie, a double sword, and can use a sword as an implement (wizard of the spiral tower?&nbsp; would that work?) then you CAN use DIS, as you are counted as wielding two things which are implements: one end of the double sword, and the other end of the double sword.The only thing that confuses the rules is that the word 'staff' refers to both a weapon group and an implement type.&nbsp; This is really an irreconcilable argument in that case, as the rules aren't clear whether &quot;staff&quot; as a weapon group and &quot;staff&quot; as an implement are the same rules term.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="webrunner, post: 5234466, member: 63727"] You seem to be confused as to the meaning of "one each". If you go to the store and are told "it's a quarter for each pop", do you take two pops and say "well it's the same quarter for each pop"? No, that's ridiculous. "each" infers a counting meaning. You need one of one thing for every one of the other thing. You need one implement for every hand. As for the insistance that it breaks double weapons, no, it explicitly doesn't because using a double weapon counts as wielding a weapon in each hand, but the weapons it counts as wielding are different than the main weapon ie, the main hand of an ugrosh and the offhand f an ugrosh are not in themselves full ugroshes, but they share things such as keywords from their 'parent'. The same goes for quartersaffs. Aquarterstaff is not made up of two quarterstaffs. If it were each of those would also be made up of two quarterstaffs, etc If however you are wielding, ie, a double sword, and can use a sword as an implement (wizard of the spiral tower? would that work?) then you CAN use DIS, as you are counted as wielding two things which are implements: one end of the double sword, and the other end of the double sword. The only thing that confuses the rules is that the word 'staff' refers to both a weapon group and an implement type. This is really an irreconcilable argument in that case, as the rules aren't clear whether "staff" as a weapon group and "staff" as an implement are the same rules term. [/QUOTE]

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