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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 4882627" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>You might want to get a third party to role play the Prince for you. In complex open-ended scenarios like this, I find that's interesting way to remain the "referee", without being tempted to have the enemy be either omniscent about the PC's plans, or giving them too much of the benefit of the doubt. </p><p></p><p>Of course, you could always just ask the community here: "What would evil prince do?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Two other random revolutionary thoughts:</p><p>(1) People generally assume it's the poor who lead revolutions, because they are oppressed and can't take it anymore. That's completely wrong. It's the upper middle class or low end of the upper class who are revolutionaries.</p><p></p><p>Think of the American Revolution's Founding Fathers: scientist/polymath (Franklin), aristocrat/surveyor/military officer (Washington), Harvard graduate/lawyer (John Adams), aristocrat/polymath (Jefferson), lawyer (John Jay & James Madison), college student (Hamilton).</p><p></p><p>Some other revolutions:</p><p>-- English Civil War (first modern revolution): Oliver Cromwell is described by Wikipedia: The social status of Cromwell's family at his birth was relatively low within the gentry class.</p><p>-- French Revolution: Robespierre -- illegitimate son of a country gentry lawyer</p><p>-- Russian Revolution: Lenin -- son of a province's director of public schools</p><p>-- Vietnamese Revolution: Ho Chi Minh -- son of an imperial provincial magistrate for the French</p><p></p><p>No outsiders, no downtrodden poor . . . don't buy the "Les Miserables" version of who revolutionaries are. Think Aristocrats and Experts (in 3.x terms), not Commoners.</p><p></p><p>(2) There's a great Shakespeare quote about rebellions:</p><p>"Treason never prospers, and what's the reason?</p><p>For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 4882627, member: 25619"] You might want to get a third party to role play the Prince for you. In complex open-ended scenarios like this, I find that's interesting way to remain the "referee", without being tempted to have the enemy be either omniscent about the PC's plans, or giving them too much of the benefit of the doubt. Of course, you could always just ask the community here: "What would evil prince do?" :) Two other random revolutionary thoughts: (1) People generally assume it's the poor who lead revolutions, because they are oppressed and can't take it anymore. That's completely wrong. It's the upper middle class or low end of the upper class who are revolutionaries. Think of the American Revolution's Founding Fathers: scientist/polymath (Franklin), aristocrat/surveyor/military officer (Washington), Harvard graduate/lawyer (John Adams), aristocrat/polymath (Jefferson), lawyer (John Jay & James Madison), college student (Hamilton). Some other revolutions: -- English Civil War (first modern revolution): Oliver Cromwell is described by Wikipedia: The social status of Cromwell's family at his birth was relatively low within the gentry class. -- French Revolution: Robespierre -- illegitimate son of a country gentry lawyer -- Russian Revolution: Lenin -- son of a province's director of public schools -- Vietnamese Revolution: Ho Chi Minh -- son of an imperial provincial magistrate for the French No outsiders, no downtrodden poor . . . don't buy the "Les Miserables" version of who revolutionaries are. Think Aristocrats and Experts (in 3.x terms), not Commoners. (2) There's a great Shakespeare quote about rebellions: "Treason never prospers, and what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." [/QUOTE]
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