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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Werebat" data-source="post: 5291769" data-attributes="member: 40158">Thanks for the response.  I hadn't noticed staggered as a condition in 3.5 before, but there you go.The effects of RoD are, as I say, identical to being staggered (you may only make a move or a standard action per round).I don't see being dizzy as a mind-affecting condition so much as a physiological one.  It results from disorientation due to overstimulation of the body's natural balance sensors.  I'm thinking a Fort save may be most appropriate.As for immunity, I'm thinking creatures that are "immune" to being staggered by virtue of being destroyed once they hit 0 hit points should be immune to dizziness (constructs and undead, I believe).  Oozes seem like they should be immune, too, as well as maybe plants.I totally agree, BTW, with the decision to grant saves for those offensive ranged touch attack spells.  Good call.   - Ron   ^*^Edit: The types immune to mind-affecting effects are constructs, undead, oozes, plants, and vermin, pretty much all the types I mentioned.  I can live with worms and ants being immune to dizziness, so your suggestion might be the best choice here after all.  Make it a mind-affecting effect with a Fort save cutting the duration to one round and I guess I'm good to go.</blockquote>