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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crust" data-source="post: 4462021" data-attributes="member: 22330">I'd rather avoid this because he doesn't want any conduct to be enforced on his PC.  He just wants to do whatever he wants to do.  Role-playing consequences are essentially no consequences to him, so even suggesting that he avoid killing evil opponents on sight is something he's already spoken out against.I'll consider this, but like I said, the player has been poisoned with that Neverwinter Nights mentality, where alignment is nothing more than a requisite of a PrC.He brought up Adolf Hitler at the table, suggesting that going back in time to murder Hitler is an act of goodness (never mind the time traveling theories), which I found to be very shocking.  It's my understanding that murdering even Hitler is still murder, and thus evil.  Unless he's coming at you with a knife or brandishing a pistol, assassinating Hitler is an evil act.  I tried explaining this to him, and he responded with, "Dude, I don't think you understand at all."  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />  He's right.  I don't understand how he could think that.  Arguing with him is like talking to a brick wall, so it seems that I need to enforce some rules.  Am I wrong in my thinking?Now, I wasn't planning on just handing him a list of rules he must follow.  I was planning on having the brachyurus (and other mentors) explain these things to him in-game and through examples that we play through.  For example, I could have the brachyurus show him a pack of displacer beasts hunting a herd of buffalo.  Kragg would immediately desire to kill all the displacer beats, but why?  Just to kill them?  The displacers are trying to feed, like any predator, and killing the displacer beasts off would rob the nearby rocs of a potentially valuable food source.  Sure, the rocs could eat the buffalo, but without the displacers, the buffalo population would explode and ruin the ecosystem.  I could also show how a nearby pack of blink dogs keep the displacers in check, and therefore Kragg's bloodlust is not necessary, etc. etc.  As a ranger, he should understand the need for a balanced ecosystem, and the displacer beast/blink dog dichotomy shouldn't be hard to swallow.I'm also planning on making sure that any evil foes who are spared (evil boss-types in particular) become central to the success of certain quests, showing that the wanton slaughtering of evil beings upsets the balance of fate in some ambiguous way.It's these examples that I want to run in-game to make my points.  I can still see the player resisting these "lessons," not because they don't make sense, but because they suggestively ask him to follow a code of conduct that he feels is unnecessary.Thanks for that.  I hadn't considered the bluff bonuses.I'll take a look.  Food for thought.</blockquote>

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