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<blockquote data-quote="Asha'man" data-source="post: 4465806" data-attributes="member: 52424"><p>Crust, could you do me a favor? My game also features a good werewolf of Selune who has a rivalry with the People of the Black Blood. Could you please post the stat block for Ruskin (and ideally, Kragg)? I'd love to have them as NPCs in my game.</p><p></p><p>As for your problem, it seems to me that this isn't an issue that can be settled in-game. He has shown repeatedly that the two of you have completely incompatible views on what it means to be Exalted. While I personally use the BOED and BOVD minimally (and almost never for my PCs, since they are usually flawed heroes at best), I've read enough of it that I think you have a problem. Bluntly put, the moral pronouncements of the BOED are often very dubious, and sometimes outright contradictory or silly. Print-outs from the book are not very likely to illuminate an alignment debate. You can still use the book, but it requires a lot of adjudication and discussion of what Exalted means for the purposes of any given game. Possibly even any given character, which might be an interesting angle: Some patrons of Exalted characters might require different things from their followers and have different views on the justice/mercy dichotomy. But I'm rambling.</p><p></p><p>To return to your game: It is important not to make it *too* onerous for PCs to maintain exalted status, to the point where the character becomes unplayable in a regular party. For example, your comments that Kragg should give mercy again and again even if Ruskin returns as the unrepentant instrument of Malar seems like they would require all exalted characters to be unreasonably trusting and unable to effectively combat evil. (Which last is after all the primary purpose of a Stalker of Kharrash.)</p><p></p><p>What I'd do, as some have suggested, is to ask him "Your character is Exalted, a devoted follower of Selune and Kharrash. What do *you* think that means?" If the discussion is fruitful and you end up with sufficient common ground you can agree on, continue playing, and introduce any further consequences of evil or errant actions through role-playing (robertliguori's druid suggestion was good, I thought). If you find that you don't see eye to eye on important issues, or that he just doesn't care, tell him "Our views on what Exalted means are incompatible, to the extent I don't think you should play an Exalted character in a game I DM. It will only lead to problems and arguments" and either write his character out in favor of a new one or have him change his ethos so he's no longer bound by any codes you (that's you plural) can't handle. You've said you want him to "learn something" from this as a player, but I think that's wrongheaded and only likely to lead to bad blood or trouble. It's D&D, not a psychology session. A fun game for all concerned (Including you, obviously, but him, too) is far more important and apropos.</p><p></p><p>Summary of wall of text: Either he understands exalted and just does it wrong (possibly intentionally, even) or (as sounds far more likely) you have completely incompatible ideas of Exalted, so much so that he shouldn't be playing Exalted in your games. If the latter, he won't enjoy a game of trying to live up to your code, and should change or switch characters so the game can stay enjoyable for everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Asha'man, post: 4465806, member: 52424"] Crust, could you do me a favor? My game also features a good werewolf of Selune who has a rivalry with the People of the Black Blood. Could you please post the stat block for Ruskin (and ideally, Kragg)? I'd love to have them as NPCs in my game. As for your problem, it seems to me that this isn't an issue that can be settled in-game. He has shown repeatedly that the two of you have completely incompatible views on what it means to be Exalted. While I personally use the BOED and BOVD minimally (and almost never for my PCs, since they are usually flawed heroes at best), I've read enough of it that I think you have a problem. Bluntly put, the moral pronouncements of the BOED are often very dubious, and sometimes outright contradictory or silly. Print-outs from the book are not very likely to illuminate an alignment debate. You can still use the book, but it requires a lot of adjudication and discussion of what Exalted means for the purposes of any given game. Possibly even any given character, which might be an interesting angle: Some patrons of Exalted characters might require different things from their followers and have different views on the justice/mercy dichotomy. But I'm rambling. To return to your game: It is important not to make it *too* onerous for PCs to maintain exalted status, to the point where the character becomes unplayable in a regular party. For example, your comments that Kragg should give mercy again and again even if Ruskin returns as the unrepentant instrument of Malar seems like they would require all exalted characters to be unreasonably trusting and unable to effectively combat evil. (Which last is after all the primary purpose of a Stalker of Kharrash.) What I'd do, as some have suggested, is to ask him "Your character is Exalted, a devoted follower of Selune and Kharrash. What do *you* think that means?" If the discussion is fruitful and you end up with sufficient common ground you can agree on, continue playing, and introduce any further consequences of evil or errant actions through role-playing (robertliguori's druid suggestion was good, I thought). If you find that you don't see eye to eye on important issues, or that he just doesn't care, tell him "Our views on what Exalted means are incompatible, to the extent I don't think you should play an Exalted character in a game I DM. It will only lead to problems and arguments" and either write his character out in favor of a new one or have him change his ethos so he's no longer bound by any codes you (that's you plural) can't handle. You've said you want him to "learn something" from this as a player, but I think that's wrongheaded and only likely to lead to bad blood or trouble. It's D&D, not a psychology session. A fun game for all concerned (Including you, obviously, but him, too) is far more important and apropos. Summary of wall of text: Either he understands exalted and just does it wrong (possibly intentionally, even) or (as sounds far more likely) you have completely incompatible ideas of Exalted, so much so that he shouldn't be playing Exalted in your games. If the latter, he won't enjoy a game of trying to live up to your code, and should change or switch characters so the game can stay enjoyable for everyone. [/QUOTE]
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